DESTRUCTION's SCHMIER is still hopeful for more shows featuring “Big Four” of German thrash metal

25-02-2025
In a new interview with Francisco Zamudio of KNAC.COM, DESTRUCTION bassist/vocalist Schmier was asked about the possibility of more shows featuring the union of Germany’s legendary “Teutonic Big Four”, completed by KREATOR, SODOM and TANKARD. He said: “I don’t wanna say anything bad now because I’ve been working for the last 10 years on this. I tried to convince everybody. I tried to build bridges between everybody. Everybody knows each other, but in between there’s also managers and labels and different advisors also.
“I was happy that two years ago, we played in Mexico together, a big festival, all four of us,” he continued. “Then this last year, we played Germany and Romania also. It was amazing. The German show was sold out in three days — 7,000 people. It was killer. But then not everything was perfect in between the organization and the whole thing, and some people were unhappy. And I think SODOM doesn’t wanna do it anymore. And we have a show this year — KREATOR, DESTRUCTION and TANKARD, without SODOM, in Germany. And it seems it’s not happening. Tom (SODOM‘s Thomas ‘Angelripper’ Such) did some interviews where he spoke about it. And I guess you have to talk to him and find out how he feels about it.
“For me, I say there’s always a solution for every problem,” Schmier added. “So when you have a problem and you’re not happy and you talk about it, you find a solution and then you can do it, because this is a gift to do this. This is a life goal to tour this around the world. People wanna see it everywhere in the world. And just to throw away this idea just because of some problems that came up, it’s not cool. I think sit down, think about it, recharge your batteries and let’s do this, but I’m not the one making the decision. Everybody has to be involved. Hopefully the day will come again one day that we talk about it, but we’re not getting younger. That’s my concern — we’re not getting younger. Also, people, as they age, they get more stubborn, and that’s not gonna help. So I hope that things will loosen up and one day we can still do this as long as we’re still able to do this, because we’re gonna be the generation of thrash bands that retires in 10 years, 15 years — who knows how long we can do this? So every year counts, every album counts, every opportunity is a cool one. And to have this opportunity to play with a ‘Big Four’, ‘German Big Four’, is an amazing one. So to just throw it away like this, I think it’s not cool, but I’m not the only one in charge here. So let’s hope the day will come that we can talk again.”
Schmier went on to say that a tour featuring KREATOR, DESTRUCTION, SODOM and TANKARD “was supposed to happen in America. There was already some offers for shows. And then SODOM kind of backed out,” he explained.
“It would be great for fans all around the world to see those four bands playing together, and especially also in America, because those guys (SODOM and TANKARD) don’t tour much in the States. And it would be a big opportunity to catch them all together for once. You can bring your kids. All the generations can go together. It would be like going to a baseball game. It’s something special. But we all need to sit at the table, and if somebody doesn’t want, we cannot force him at the moment. So let’s wait and see what happens. Hope dies last, is my saying. So I’m still hopeful.”
DESTRUCTION will release their 16th studio album, “Birth Of Malice”, on March 7, 2025 via Napalm Records. The official music video for the LP’s third single, “Scumbag Human Race”, was released lat week.
Watch “Scumbag Human Race” below.
Schmier says: “Single number three, ‘Scumbag Human Race’, is a merciless steamhammer of a track! Its relentless groove and energy are pushing you straight forward into the moshpit! This will be an intense live track and that riff can melt faces! The lyrics are metaphorically speaking: how would this planet call us if it could talk? And what would it tell us? Right …wake the fuck up … SCUMBAG HUMAN RACE!!!!”
Watch the previously released “A.N.G.S.T.” and “Destruction” below.
The cover art for the LP was created by Gyula Havancsák and can be seen below.
By the end of 2024, DESTRUCTION shared the “Birth Of Malice” cover art on social media and included the following message: “NEW ALBUM – NEW SINGLE – NEW VIDEO!!! Today marks the kick-off to our WEEK OF DESTRUCTION! Yes, you saw it coming, our brand-new album ‘Birth Of Malice’ will finally drop in March 2025 via Napalm Records! The vicious cover-art was created by master-artist & friend Gyula Havancsák.
“Tomorrow we will have a sneak-peak trailer of our next single for you and Thursday the new video, that we have filmed in Sao Paulo/Brazil , will be released. Pre-order also starts this Thursday November 14th at 4 PM CET!!!
“‘Birth Of Malice’ sounds like next level DESTRUCTION, it marks a new era of heaviness, virtuosity and feels like an oldschool punch in the gut!
“Stay tuned and be a part of this wild ride!”
“Birth Of Malice” was recorded at Switzerland’s Little Creek Studio by V.O. Pulver. Guitarist Martin Furia mixed and mastered the masterpiece at The Black Mancave in Hannover, Germany.
“Birth Of Malice” track listing:
01. Birth Of Malice
02. Destruction
03. Cyber Warfare
04. No Kings – No Masters
05. Scumbag Human Race
06. God Of Gore
07. A.N.G.S.T.
08. Dealer Of Death
09. Evil Never Sleeps
10. Chains Of Sorrow
11. Greed
12. Fast As A Shark
This past July, DESTRUCTION released a cover version of ACCEPT‘s classic song “Fast As A Shark”, alongside a new visualizer video. The song was featured on the two-track 12-inch vinyl in the very limited fan edition “No Kings – No Masters”.
DESTRUCTION‘s massive career has seen many successes, with the band hitting stages at the world’s biggest festivals around the world like Hellfest, Wacken Open Air, Graspop Metal Meeting and México Metal Fest.
DESTRUCTION, known as one of the “Teutonic Four”, alongside KREATOR, SODOM and TANKARD, were reunited with the other three acts at the “Klash Of The Ruhrpott” concert on July 20 in Gelsenkirchen, Germany.
In a January 2023 interview with Felipe Canales of Chile’s iRock, DESTRUCTION bassist/vocalist Schmier was asked if he and his DESTRUCTION bandmates have ever considered changing their sound in order to reach a wider audience. He responded: “In Germany, we say, ‘Don’t change your winning recipe. Stick to the guns. Stick to what you can do best.’ And for me, what I can do best is playing thrash metal. Every album we do sounds a little bit different, but it always will sound like DESTRUCTION.
“When you get older, it’s very easy to slow down,” Schmier explained. “A lot of musicians, when they get older, they wanna slow down; they wanna play blues; they wanna play more mellow music. For me, that’s never been the case. I think the older you get, the more you go crazy about it. You wanna still show the young kids how it’s done. When we go out there to the festivals, we compete… To all those young bands, I could be their father, so I have to be the role model. So that’s how I see it. Slowing down and changing something is not what we do.”
As for whether it’s harder for him to play physically challenging music as he gets older, Schmier said: “It’s like in football — the old, experienced player, he has the feel for it. The young player runs more and runs faster. The old player has the eye and the brain. And it’s the same in music. Of course I have to train harder to go on stage, but my experience of my age is great because I have better voice control. I know more what I want. I know what I don’t want and where the band belongs. So this experience of a certain 40 years in the music business is, of course, a great one.”
DESTRUCTION‘s latest studio album, “Diabolical”, came out in April 2022 via Napalm Records.
In August 2021, DESTRUCTION officially parted ways with founding guitarist Michael “Mike” Sifringer and replaced him with Martin Furia. The Argentinian-born, Belgian-based Furia is best known for his work as sound engineer and producer for such bands as NERVOSA and EVIL INVADERS.
Sifringer was the only member of DESTRUCTION to have remained constant throughout the band’s career. Schmier appeared on DESTRUCTION‘s first three albums before exiting the band and being replaced by POLTERGEIST vocalist André Grieder. André‘s sole recorded appearance with DESTRUCTION was on the “Cracked Brain” album, which came out in 1990. Schmier rejoined DESTRUCTION in 1999.
DESTRUCTION 2024 is:
Schmier – Bass, Vocals
Martin Furia – Guitars
Randy Black – Drums
Damir Eskić – Guitars

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