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JIM ROOT talk about SLIPKNOT picking drummer ELOY CASAGRANDE: “we didn't even try anybody else”

Photo credit: Jonathan Weiner

15-05-2024

In a new interview with Tone-TalkSLIPKNOT guitarist Jim Root reflected on the first two concerts the band played with its new drummer, former SEPULTURA sticksman Eloy Casagrande. The gigs took place on April 25 at Pappy + Harriet’s in Pioneertown, California and on April 27 at the Sick New World festival in Las Vegas, Nevada. Jim said: “We just did two new shows to sort of introduce our new drummer to the world. We did a secret show at Pappy + Harriet’s in Pioneertown in the desert, kind of over by Indio, Palm Springs area. And man, that was awesome. I love the desert, and that whole vibe is just cool. And the people there were just so nice, so cool, so accepting. And they had to have a city council meeting for us to do the show there, ’cause they were kind of, like. ‘Oooh, SLIPKNOT. This is a small kind of chill, hippie community. Do we want this chaos happening here?’ type of thing. But it all turned out really cool and everybody was really accepting and everybody was really respectful. And we raised a bunch of money to donate for no-kill shelters and generated a bunch of money to pump back into the economy there in Pioneertown. And stuff like that to me is epic. That’s way better than… I don’t know. Some of the shit that you can end up doing in this industry for, let’s just say, not the greatest causes, but when you can do stuff like that, it just hits harder. And it was something special. And it gave us a chance to do something that we hadn’t done in years, if not decades — play for 300 people. That was much fun. I can’t even describe it. So we did that to kind of, like, ‘Boom, here he is. Yes, you were all right. It’s Eloy Casagrande. He’s our new dude.’ And then — what? — two days later, we did a Sick New World in Vegas. So, we got those under the belt and out of the way, and now it’s time to move forward and onward and upward and do a lot more jamming and rehearsing. I need to get myself into writing mode so that we can write music worthy of Eloy‘s drumming, ’cause that dude is a world-class drummer.”

Asked if SLIPKNOT has commenced writing new music and whether Casagrande is involved in the creative process, Jim said: “We haven’t really started doing that yet. We will be doing that real soon. Eloy has sent me some drum loops. He e-mailed me some… Eloy does a lot of drum videos on his own and play-alongs in his home studio and stuff like that. So he sent me five or six minute — from a minute long to one that’s a couple minutes long of just him playing drums. And I downloaded those on to my computer and I converted them into files that I could import into Pro Tools. And I spent some time kind of trying to write some riffs to them. And it was a little bit difficult because he basically sent me two-minute-long drum solos. And I’m not really good at finding a bit, chopping it out and then looping it to make that, like, ‘Okay, this sounds like it could be like an intro riff on the drums. And this sounds like it could be like a verse riff on the drums.’ ‘Cause the particular ones that he sent me, it’s, like, a lot of real stunt drumming and really busy stuff. And I wrote riffs to most all of it. And there’s one in particular that I’m thinking about that if it does turn into a song, it’s gonna be an awfully chaotic song, which could be really cool. So, yes and no, he’s contributing, but we haven’t really gotten there yet. We’re trying to get these shows under our belt first and then it’s time to put our nose to the grindstone and start the creative writing process.”

Later in the chat, Root spoke in more general terms about how Casagrande came to join SLIPKNOT and his impact on the band’s overall sound. He said: “We didn’t even try anybody else. Eloy‘s name came up. He contacted us, actually, about wanting to be a part of it and started sending a bunch of videos in. I think him and our bass player (Alessandro ‘Vman’ Venturella) might’ve had a little bit of a relationship before. I think they knew each other. They had mutual friends. And Vman‘s really in tune with a lot of really great, proggy, heavy musicians that are passionate about their instruments. And it just seemed like a no-brainer. And he’s really respectful of the legacy of (SLIPKNOT‘s original drummer, the late) Joey (Jordison), and Joey was a huge influence on him. And he’s so humble. The dude has so much humility. And you could tell he just lives and breathes his craft, to the point where I see his passion and it ignites my passion for my instrument. And Brazilians, South Americans in general, are so passionate about what they do. Our manager told me, he was out to dinner with four or five promoters from South America, and they were all really stoked. They’re all, like, ‘It’s so good you’ve got a Brazilian drummer in SLIPKNOT now. We kind of feel like we’ve won the World Cup.’ It’s a cool feeling. And God, he just fits in so well. I don’t know, man. I mean, there’s a lot of things I can say about it. I’m just glad it happened when it did. And we’re lucky to have him — we are really lucky to have that dude.”

SLIPKNOT made its first festival appearance of 2024 Saturday night (April 27) as one of the headliners of Sick New World in Las Vegas, Nevada. The show marked SLIPKNOT‘s second performance with Casagrande.

Prior to Sick New WorldSLIPKNOT played an intimate show Thursday night, April 25 at Pappy + Harriet’s in Pioneertown, California.

For both the Pappy + Harriet’s and Sick New World gigs, SLIPKNOT adopted a classic look, bringing back the 1999 red jumpsuits and elements of their early masks into their modern versions, tying into the fact that SLIPKNOT is celebrating its 25th anniversary this year.

After parting ways with Jay Weinberg last November, SLIPKNOT teased fans with a hint about a new drummer nearly two months ago, posting a photo of a single broken drumstick online with the caption “Rehearsal.”

The band explained in a statement that the split with Weinberg was a creative decision. Jay followed up with a statement of his own, saying that he was “heartbroken and blindsided” by his dismissal.

Weinberg has since joined SUICIDAL TENDENCIES and INFECTIOUS GROOVES.

Casagrande abruptly quit SEPULTURA three months ago, shortly before he was supposed to begin rehearsals for the band’s recently launched 40th-anniversary farewell tour.

“February 6th, a few days prior to the first rehearsal, drummer Eloy Casagrande informed the band that he was leaving SEPULTURA to pursue a career in another project,” the band said in a statement.

Casagrande joined SEPULTURA 13 years ago as the replacement for Jean Dolabella.

In February 2020, SEPULTURA singer Derrick Green told Australia’s Everblack Media that Casagrande had had “a tremendous impact” on the group since he joined in 2011. “It’s undeniable because he’s such a strong force,” he said. “He loves playing metal music. He’s one of the most talented drummers I’ve ever seen, honestly. That power is consistent from beginning to the end. It really has rubbed off on all of us to really push ourselves further. He’s such a perfect match for the band. He really is always influencing us in so many ways to really go beyond — above and beyond.”

SLIPKNOT‘s latest album “The End, So Far”, arrived in August 2022. It marked the band’s the last full-length LP before the departure of both keyboardist Craig Jones, who left the group in June 2023, and Weinberg.

Featured songs:

00:00 (515)
01:38 People=Shit
05:36 Eyeless
10:10 Disasterpiece
17:20 Before I Forget
22:17 Custer
27:55 Psychosocial
32:55 The Devil In I
39:56 The Heretic Anthem
45:24 Unsainted
50:05 Wait And Bleed
53:35 Prosthetics
58:46 Vermilion
1:06:59 Duality
1:11:28 Spit It Out
1:14:46 Surfacing

For the Pappy + Harriet’s gig, SLIPKNOT adopted a classic look, bringing back the 1999 red jumpsuits and elements of their early masks into their modern versions, tying into the fact that SLIPKNOT is celebrating its 25th anniversary this year.

Singer Corey Taylor said onstage mid-performance: “Tonight it doesn’t matter where you came from, it doesn’t matter when you were born. This year is 19-fucking-99. We’re going to play you some songs from beyond that year, but goddamn it, it all started in ’99 and it is starting again here tonight.”

Tickets to the the Pappy + Harriet’s concert sold out in minutes. They were priced just $9, and fans were limited to two tickets each, with no refunds or transfers allowed. All ticket proceeds will go to Joshua Tree No Kill Shelter and Boys & Girls Club Of The Hi Desert.

SLIPKNOT has yet to officially reveal the identity of its new drummer after parting ways with Jay Weinberg last November.

Fans have speculated that Weinberg‘s replacement is Casagrande, who abruptly left that band in early February, just days before the start of the Brazilian/American outfit’s farewell tour.

A month and a half ago, SLIPKNOT teased fans with a hint about a new drummer, posting a photo of a single broken drumstick online with the caption “Rehearsal.”

SLIPKNOT‘s latest album “The End, So Far”, arrived in August 2022. It marked the band’s the last full-length LP before the departure of both keyboardist Craig Jones, who left the group in June 2023, and Weinberg.

Speaking to NME about what SLIPKNOT has planned for 2024, founding member Shawn “Clown” Crahan said: “I’m ready to move on from what has been and move on to a world that I know needs to be. For instance, normally we’d have about two years on and one and a half years off — we’re not doing that anymore.

“We’re going back to basics,” he added. “I’m ready to kick everybody in the face again. I’m ready to do a 100-person venue again. I’m ready to do a 500-person venue.”

SLIPKNOT has revealed tour dates for a massive 2024 European headline run. The band’s thrilling, multi-sensory live shows are legendary, and with SLIPKNOT celebrating 25 years on this upcoming run, these shows will be especially explosive and not to be missed.

SLIPKNOT co-founder and percussionist M. Shawn Crahan (a.k.a. Clown) states about the upcoming shows: “It has been 25 years since we first played on the continent, and we’ve been back ever since. The memories I have from all those times are life-changing, and we’re ready to make more.

“I’m so excited to bring our 25-year anniversary tour to Europe and the U.K. Be prepared for an energy you’ve never experienced before. It’s happening.”

Europe (with support from BLEED FROM WITHIN)
Dec. 05 – Amsterdam, Netherlands – Ziggo Dome
Dec. 06 – Dortmund, Germany – Westfalenhalle
Dec. 08 – Stuttgart, Germany – Schleyerhalle
Dec. 09 – Leipzig, Germany – Quarterback Immobilien Arena
Dec. 11 – Zurich, Switzerland – Hallenstadion
Dec. 12 – Paris, France – Accorhotel Arena
Dec. 14 – Leeds, UK – First Direct Arena
Dec. 15 – Glasgow, UK – OVO Hydro
Dec. 17 – Manchester, UK – Co-op Live Arena
Dec. 18 – Birmingham, UK – Utilita Arena
Dec. 20 – London, UK – O2 Arena

Check out a tour trailer below.

The run kicks off at Ziggo Dome in Amsterdam, Netherlands on December 5, canvases continental Europe with arena dates in Germany, France and Switzerland, and concludes at the world-famous O2 Arena in London on December 20. This notably marks their first O2 Arena performance since 2020. Presale tickets will go live on December 13 at 9:00 a.m. U.K. time, with official Live Nation and venue presales launching on Thursday, December 14 at 9:00 a.m. U.K. time, and general on-sale following on December 15 at 9:00 a.m. U.K. time.

Photo credit: Jonathan Weiner

Slipknot released the official video for “Yen” earlier this year. The song is taken off their new album ‘The End So Far’, released on September 30 release on Roadrunner Records.

SLIPKNOT released their debut self-titled studio album on 29th June 1999, and with it, heralded a seismic shift in music, attitude and energy, and have since defined a culture that has only grown around the world. In the quarter century since, SLIPKNOT‘s unwavering dedication to their art, expression, and their fans remains at the core of their mission. The band has remained as creative and unapologetic as ever, both in their music and their live shows.

Slipknot has not released the name or identity of their new drummer, after the ungracious exit of drummer Jay Weinberg, earlier this year. 

“Yen” follows the forthcoming album’s lead single “The Dying Song (Time To Sing)” which arrived last month accompanied by an official music video directed by the band’s own M. Shawn “Clown” Crahan. The track garnered widespread acclaim upon its arrival with The Fader declaring “It absolutely rips,” and Rolling Stone praising it as a “punishing new elegy.”

A four-camera video of SLIPKNOT performing its previous single, “The Dying Song (Time To Sing)”, live for the first time on July 28 at O2 Arena in Prague, Czech Republic is now available (courtesy of YouTube channel Bahomar).

Watch “The Dying Song (Time To Sing)” live and it official video directed by SLIPKNOT percussionist M. Shawn “Clown” Crahan below.

Produced by SLIPKNOT and Joe Barresi“The End, So Far” includes the band’s 2021 surprise single “The Chapeltown Rag” and follows their widely celebrated 2019 album “We Are Not Your Kind”, which marked SLIPKNOT‘s third consecutive No. 1 on the Billboard 200. The release made a massive global impact with No. 1 debuts in the official album charts of twelve countries around the world, including the U.K., Australia, Canada and Mexico, with Top 5 debuts in an additional twelve countries including Germany, France and Sweden.

Regarding the lyrical inspiration for “The Dying Song (Time To Sing)”SLIPKNOT singer Corey Taylor told Kerrang! magazine: “To me, it just seems like it’s all the outrage and none of the punishment. For the last few years it’s been very trendy to be offended and outraged by everything, and yet nothing happens – especially in my country, which is just fucking ridiculous. It’s almost like the tables have turned, and the more angry people get, the more the people who they’re mad at just double-down on the shit. Instead of there being cause and effect, or crime and punishment, now it’s just like, ‘Fuck you, we don’t care.’ I can’t tell if that’s a reaction because of the almost nihilistic isolation of the cultures themselves, where neither side is acknowledging any of the good parts of each other – they’re just really honed in on the shit that they consider inflammatory. And it’s almost like people are ringing the doomsday bell. You’re sitting there going, ‘Well, it’s been fun! Everybody, pick up your trash when you’re leaving, and I’ll see you in Hell!’ That’s kind of what that song is. It’s just like, ‘If we don’t figure it out, I’ll see you when the meteor hits, basically.'”
 
As for SLIPKNOT‘s working relationship with BarresiTaylor said: “He’s one of those dudes who’s got great ideas, but he also allows you to do what is on your mind. If he has an idea, he lets you pursue yours, but then he’ll go, ‘You know, just for me, try this and see if these things can live together.’ He’s very unassuming, which is kind of rare these days. Sometimes you can get a producer who’s trying to enforce their will on it, but Joe just wants what’s best for the album, and what’s best for the song, and what’s best for the performance.”
 

“The End, So Far” track listing:

01. Adderall
02. The Dying Song (Time To Sing)
03. The Chapeltown Rag
04. Yen
05. Hivemind
06. Warranty
07. Medicine For The Dead
08. Acidic
09. Heirloom
10. H377
11. De Sade
12. Finale

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