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Draconian – interview met Anders Jacobsson (vocals)

Anders Jacobsson: “I want people having a connection to my lyrics, so that they feel less lonely in this world, which is important I think, because this is how I relate to music. It has been my angel on my shoulder for as long as I have been living”

Draconian is één van de grondleggers van het genre waarin melancholie hoogtij viert, gebracht in een mix van gothic, doom en death metal. Sinds ze in 2003 het debuutalbum via Napalm Records uitbrachten en ons daarna met het meesterwerk ‘Arcane Rain Fell’ inpalmden, (2005) werd duidelijk dat we te maken hadden met één van de toppers uit Zweden. De band neemt altijd de nodige tijd om iets nieuws uit te brengen en ook nu liggen er zes jaar achter ons sinds vorige schijf ‘Under A Godless Veil’. Het achtste studioalbum ‘In Somnolent Ruin’ blijkt opgenomen met een nieuwe bezetting, waaronder de terugkeer van zangeres Lisa Johansson naast zanger/dichter Anders Jacobsson. Met deze laatstgenoemde begenadigde artiest hadden we een fijn gesprek. Na het gezellige weerzien va zoom, gooiden we ons er meteen in, want in een half uur diende alles geklaard te worden.
Vera Matthijssens Ι 13 mei 2026

Let us focus on one of the most important features, the lyrics. It seems that the lyrics explore Plato’s theory of the soul further, but that was not planned or the intention from the beginning. Can you tell a bit more about that?
Like I said throughout the whole interview cycle, I don’t think the label or the press release was right. It is not true from the perspective of a conceptual album, like some of our other albums are. So I think there was a kind of misunderstanding there. We did discuss Plato‘s ‘Allegory of the Cave’, because that was something that I found compelled to talk about last time for the previous album, because you know, we dived pretty deep into philosophy for the inspiration of that album. This time around it is not really the same, it is not a concept album in that sense and the reason why Plato was brought in, was because he was the main philosopher who brought that train of thought into the western world, which later became the central thesis of Agnosticism, which is a passion of mine when it comes to how I view things from the world, like a spiritual angle. So it is not really an album about that allegorical soul. Personal I think what the label meant, was that allegorical decay. It is there in the background, because I am talking for instance about ‘Lethe’, the river of forgetfulness which is the song that ends the album and of course that is where Plato talks about when it comes to the reincarnation matrix that we are kind of doomed to forget our past lives. This is the reason for a soul form process where, almost like in ‘The Matrix’, it is basically an allegory where we are fed with all our fears and our impulses and our suffering basically. We are stuck in a kind of limited construction, because we are in a state of amnesia, we are species of amnesia. That’s what I mean by ‘Lethe’, I think in that song it is very straight forward. I am using some Greek and other things; ways to dress my philosophical personal dispositions in the lyrics. It makes it a little bit more appealing, since I usually like to write in symbolism and metaphors and stuff, but I am using Asteria, the Greek goddess, also in the title which is not necessarily about her in the actual lyric, it is more that I want the lyric to appeal to others. That is why I not try to tell the story from a very direct perspective, because I want the listener to find things they can relate to. So that they feel less lonely in this world, which is important I think, because this is how I relate to music. It has been my angel on my shoulder for as long as I have been living. I have always felt as an outsider. It was always a beautiful thing to me that I realized when reading lyrics and later when I started to read poetry, that there were people who actually felt this way. It is probably the main reason why I felt compelled to maintain this and also found a kind of a reason… to exist (maybe). So I am using different aspects here, like existential ancst and thoughts about life and death, God, asking questions. I am using the death experience and all of that, even dreams. Like the first song ‘I Welcome Thy Arrow’, is based on a dream that haunted me several times. It kind of updated itself and it became very vivid in my life. I felt like I was alone in the forest instead of being lost in the ocean, because life is like an ocean where we have to constantly struggle to keep you on the surface, so you don’t drown, but I found myself like lost in the wilderness, kind of alone. So it was almost like some kind of Greek mythological haunting where she was trying to haunt me while I was trying to seek her. We were looking for each other in this lost forest, because I was welcoming her arrow. It was a kind of romanticized death wish with a mythological flair to it. And that idea repeated itself many times in my dreams. I was like reborn in the end of the song and that is why the song ends in a bit victorious manner. Now I can get to sleep and I have overcome this not winnable war and there is light… not at the end of the tunnel, but it has light in the darkness.

Usually you perform the narration yourself, but now there is a narrator. Is there a specific reason for that?
There is a narrator in two of the songs, Simon Bibby from My Silent Wake and Seventh Angel. We wanted to use him in a song on the bonus CD. There were a couple of instances, quite late in the process, where we wanted assistance on a couple of parts and I really wanted some other kind of timbre than the words of my own, more mythical and he is better at acting. So in the end he did it on two songs and I did some narrations as well. So it is not just him. I would say that I actually wanted a bit more narrations on this album. But Johan didn’t. It was a very confused process, the whole vocal and lyrical process for me this time, so we just went with it and I saved some ideas that I had for the next album or some other songs that we never recorded for the album.

Indeed, with ‘In Somnolent Ruin’ there already comes a special edition with two bonus tracks as I am informed well, so you must have a lot of material left I guess?
Yes, there are two songs on that one, ‘Dominion’ and ‘This Too Shall Pass’. The thing is that we wanted to have some extra songs to have bonus material and we have more bonus material also, we may release this at a later point, because what ended upon the album is only half of what we have been writing. We have a lot of demo material since the last album six years ago. It has been a very long process, unfortunately, but a lot of things have happened, in the world and in the band. There has been plenty of song ideas throughout. I don’t think I want to wait another six years. I am not getting any younger. It is time to get things moving. Now I feel that we have a strong line-up in the band. There are no issues like it was before and I don’t see any reason why there would be obstacles, even when it goes about inspiration and we know that we are all better musicians and performers and we are still having all these ideas and these songs left. I think there is going to be some new material – I won’t promise anything, but – we have things in the making as we speak.

Photo Credit: Therés Stephansdotter Björk

Something we cannot ignore: the return of Lisa Johansson as your vocal partner…
It is like an updated revival of the past somehow. There are a couple of members new in the band, but they have been for more than a half decade in Draconian now. This is just their first album with us. Daniel (Johansson – drums – Vera) has been playing with us since early 2019. The only show he did not play with us during that time was the HellFest show. Of course he wanted to do it, but he has not been very interested to maintain or to actually be part of the band when it comes to tours and live shows, even rehearsals, so at some point we had to do something. Daniel became a very solid part within the band, long before he was officially joining the band. It was a natural development in the end and that is also a reason why we are way more solid now. We can count on the members. When it comes to Niklas (Nord – guitarist – Vera), it was way more easy to find a guitarist than a bassist. So Daniel Arvidsson switched from guitar to bass and it was kind of easy to find Niklas as guitarist. It did not take long before we got a reply for a new guitarist. Niklas lives in the same province as the rest of us. Now I am the one who moved far away (chuckles), since I live in Vienna now. There are no issues anymore about permits to stay in the country, or anything like that which we faced with Heike. She also did not want to do live shows with the band anymore, so we had to kind of work that way out with Lisa in the end. In the end it was also a natural development that she returned in the band and took back the throne (so to speak). We had some kind of difficult periods there, when we did not really know what to do, because we wanted to be a touring band, but Heike wanted to decide what this band would be by not touring. We did not really agree with her, so in the end we parted ways and this is what happened. We were so fortunate that Lisa was very much ready to come back after all these years. She really wanted to. So she was really hoping that she could be a permanent member again. So we got all what we wanted: Heike has four other bands, she has plenty of material to sing and listen to.

In the third song, ‘Anima’, you share the vocals with Daniel Anghede (Crippled Black Phoenix). That’s a guy who entered into my Draconian space when Heike was singing in the band…
Indeed, in the song ‘Rivers Between Us’ on ‘Sovran’. We were working on the demo version of ‘Anima’ and it was actually my girlfriend who was in the next room… we were listening to this demos and I was trying to work out a little bit what I wanted to do with this song vocally and she said: ‘you know what? Daniel Anghede’s voice would fit the atmosphere’ and she was right. As soon as I knew that, it just clicked, so I talked about it with Johan (Ericson – guitars, keyboards, composer – Vera) and he found it a great idea. One or two days later, he did it. So it was a very quick idea that turned into reality. He brings a kind of Tiamat atmosphere to the song with his voice.

By the way, it is a very amazing album again…
Yeah? Thank you so much, because I am aware that this album will take a bit longer to get into, compared to the previous one. It is a little more complicated perhaps, but I think and I hope that people will like it just as much. Draconian is Draconian. That foundation will never change. We have an established sound for so long. As long as the sound or the soul, the basis or the foundation in the band remains the same and the main song-writers are still there, I think it is going to be that sound of course, but we all have a different preference towards vocals of course, that’s just natural. The albums with Heike are very important for us, I am not going to take anything away from that. They mean a lot, but in this situation we rather liked to go back with Lisa than having a new kind of start from scratch with someone else.

Let us wind up with your plans for touring in the near future?
A European tour for this album will happen in 2027. Most of the good venues were already booked around the release date. We wanted to wait until people can have a good experience in the best venues. Actually we will do the first tour for this album in Latin America in May. About six shows. We are going to travel a lot. It will be exhausting, but when these songs are done live, they come full circle to me. I always have more perspective when we can actually play the songs. It is one thing to create the songs in this lengthy process and playing back and forth at demos and playing back and forth in the studio and over-listening. That is why I need a little distance to it by not listening for a while and then performing it and feeling the dynamics of the songs. I am truly looking forward to that, we all are.