The Halo Effect- interview met Niclas Engelin (guitars)
Mikael Stanne : “The idea is to go for it for a long time with this band, it is not just a project”
Niclas Engelin: “I think it is important to have a cover that you like and can stand behind and you have the right feel for it, because for us it is so important to have something that showcases Gothenburg on the cover art and also we are deeply in love with the colour green“
Vera Matthijssens Ι 22 januari 2025
The debut album ‘Days Of The Lost’ created an explosion of interest and success. How did you feel about that and how do you look back on it?
I looked back at that with a big smile, because I didn’t know what to think when we started out. I did not have any expectations or did not know what to think of it. I thought: ‘okay, let us see what happens, let us go with the flow and have fun with it’ and then I woke up the day when the first single ‘Shadowminds’ was released and I was like: ‘what the fuck happened?’ People started to text me and phoning me up. I did not see this coming! It was a big surprise to a lot of people and I think that was really fun. And then we got such beautiful feedback and response from the press or media and the supporters of this genre were really, really happy about the album. So these were really happy times and all we achieved when we played 96 shows and we did a lot of touring and played festivals, huge stages. The first tour, I think we had four singles out by then, the people hadn’t heard the album, but they were still very curious what we could do together. I found it very interesting and intriguing.
You were the one who took the initiative to do this, so it must have meant a lot to you… to see that there were still warm hearted people ling this style really. I think it has created a kind of pressure when writing the second album, isn’t it?
I have to be brave and bold here. I am not bragging, but I have to say no to that. I never stopped writing music, because I always write music, even though I don’t sit in front of my studio or computer or writing. I just absorb things and I am always open-minded to where I am and which culture I am in. It is always so inspiring to talk to people overall. I had great conversations, just hanging out. That is inspiration to me. So I think the whole writing process started like one month before the first ever show for The Halo Effect, which was at the main stage of Sweden Rock. That was crazy! I mean, we had an hour to fill at the main stage in Sweden Rock. Okay. By then we had just released three singles, so what would we do? We had an album that is close to 42 minutes, okay we can play that. Shall Mikael bring poetry the rest of the 18 minutes? No, we cannot. So I wrote an intro and an outro and for the intro I thought: ‘why not making a song of the intro?’ which became ‘March Of The Unheard’, the song. As soon as I had a vision and a goal, it is much easier to do the writing. You know where to go. So that was the starting point of the writing process for ‘March Of The Unheard’.
When listening to the album, I had a feeling that in the middle of the disc, during ‘This Curse Of Silence’ and then the title track, that they are close to each other, united in some way, even in words. It is a kind of sequel to one another…
Exactly like that Vera. The funny thing is, when we played these shows, this tour, I saw people jumping. They really love the intro and they really took it to heart. So for me, writing a full song from the intro, was quite easy because I got really inspired by the reaction. Nice to see that people felt really good from the intro.
It grows. You get one reaction, you get a second reaction, all these experiences give the inspiration probably?
Exactly and that led finally to a third song, the last song on the album is the acoustic instrumental track ‘Coda’ which I thought of: ‘why not make a medley of all the melodies, some of them at least, on the album, put it together and play it acoustic?’ and add violins and cello to it. And on top of that, you use a female vocalist and Mikael’s soaring on top of that. I think that ended the album quite nice. You have a breather while you are listening to it. It is moody and it is still melancholic.
That is true and it is quite original to end the album that way in that mood… The lyrics from Mikael go a bit in a slightly different subject than on the first album of course. What about your personal experiences? Did you feel that way too – being different – when you were twelve years old and you started to have a more than usual interest in music? Did you already have dreams to make it as musician at a young age?
When I was a teenager, I was heavily into soccer. I played soccer a lot and I played a little bit of sort of ice hockey. I was a sport’s guy. All my friends who were into sports, they all listened to metal. Judas Priest, Kiss, Iron Maiden and all that stuff. We used to have it in the background all the time and then I used to hang out with an older guy or older crowd where I grew up and they took me under their wings. ‘Hey on Sunday we are going to the rehearsal room. You are going to be our mascot’ and I went there with them almost every Sunday. There I started feeling the power and got struck by the lightning of how to hear actually instruments and how it has been played. It is very powerful when you are at that age. You absorb everything, it is like a sponge. It was the coolest thing ever. They showed me how to play the guitar, Van Halen songs or Mötley Crüe, stuff like that. And one of them was becoming my youth leader when I was going to the 7th grade, I was already there and said ‘let’s go, let’s do this’ I was so blessed that they took me under their wings. Then, when I was in the eighth or ninth grade, I had to choose, because then the soccer team geared up. They wanted me to do this more games and everything, but I wanted to play like Glenn Tipton of Judas Priest and so I choose metal by then. I never thought of making a career out of music, until I was thirty or something like that. Very, very late. But it is never late for that, but I did not take it that serious, if you know what I mean. It was more: ‘this is cool, this is fun’… If I was around 29, I thought: ‘If I am going to do this, I am going to do this properly’ and put some proper effort behind it.
So there was not a generation clasp when you were twelve with your parents, because you wanted to become a rock star…
No, I have been going to shows and have seen Dio, Iron Maiden, Accept, they were like super heroes. It was like Iron Man or Spiderman to me, they were untouchable. So I could not even think in those terms and when I had played these arenas myself, I had to pinch my arm sometimes. Where I saw Dio for the first time and now I was standing there for the fourth time, doing the same thing as he did, back then. I am so blessed, I am so humble for that opportunity to do that. It means so much to me, to be able to do that and also you get to think: ‘yeah I also have supporters, they like my guitar playing and the way I write songs’. That comes to mind after, you know. Because I don’t think in those terms. It is more like a bunch of friends of mine, they hang out and talk about music. I am very thankful that I have supporters.
Did you work with the same guest musicians on cello, violins and keyboards, just like the former album?
Yes, it was the same team behind the production this time. It was me and Oscar (Nilsson, a long-time collaborator of Niclas – Vera) who produced the whole album. That was the change, that I stepped up and did the producer role for this one. We had Örjan Örnkloo on keyboards and sounds, then we have Johannes Bergion on cello and Erika on violins and then we had a female vocalist for the soars in ‘March Of The Unheard’ and ‘Coda’. Her name is Julia.
The artwork is done by the same guy as the debut, isn’t it?
It is. The same line up, the same team behind it.
We have a bit more clean vocals of Mikael Stanne in comparison with the debut. Was it done on purpose or just turned out this way?
Mikael is very specific with his vocals and lyrics. He is a poet of its time in this genre and I think that a song like ‘Between Directions’ called for his beautiful baritone of voice and tone. I don’t think it is something that he plans out really like that. If it feels right, then he does it.
There are two video clips until now and there should be a behind the scenes coming up. Was it on a special location?
We had a video shoot for ‘Detonate’. A great photographer was with us the whole day, taking photos and filming. I think we are going to share that, because we want to support the scene.
Why did you call the album ‘March Of The Unheard’?
As I said previously, we did our first show ever at Sweden Rock and then I wrote the intro for that one and then we wanted to showcase and show more of Gothenburg in our videos and also melodic death metal from Gothenburg. It made sense to do more stuff like that, I mean, we started out with ‘Shadowminds’ and you see the whole Gothenburg, but this time we wanted to… we had this beautiful marching band called Göta Lejon Marching Band, which are really huge here in Gothenburg and they are connected to the city. It is always a celebration when they are marching with the drums. So I thought: ‘why don’t we use them in the next video?’ That was suitable for ‘March Of The Unheard’, they can talk for our music. That was what we wanted to showcase and also this beautiful marching band in itself. We did a collaboration with them, last year In May, when Gothenburg were celebrating 400 years of the city. So we had them marching through the crowd, we on stage doing the same and then we played it together and got into ‘Days Of The Last’ but this time we got into ‘March Of The Unheard’. So that showcased Gothenburg through death metal in a way you can say, with a marching band. They are really open-minded and most of the members are teenagers, everything from ten years till twenty two/twenty five and there are always coming new members to learn about them. It is cool, because they are like 30/40 people and they do everything authentic; which is marvellous.
Are you planning to do more video clips?
Yes, we are actually planning one more video which we are going to shoot in early December. We are going to stop with that one. I think you are going to like it, if you liked ‘March Of The Unheard’. The video is for ‘Cruel Perception’. We are going to use the marching band again, because they recorded some beats through the song, they are on it.
There is a tour coming up in January with dates in Antwerp, Belgium and the Netherlands. I am glad you are going to headline!
Me too. That is actually the first tour we do as headliner.
What can you tell about the plans for the near future after that tour?
We are in a tour mode, which is interesting, because then you see what people like and don’t like with the new album. It is a little bit different from country to country, but I think it is fun. It will be inspiring to see and also challenging. Sometimes we have to work for it, you know and sometimes you are making a great show together. So it is quite interesting.
You often go to the Crehate Studios. It is someone you have known for a long time. What can you tell about that?
Me and Oscar (Nilsson – Vera) go like ten or twelve years back in time and I chose to do all my bands, projects and work at his studio, because we have been working so close for such a long time and we are really close in private as well. Needing another partner for me in the production, that can be tough. Knowing the other person, that is the starting point and it may take several months, years to fully know that other person. We all feel in The Halo Effect very confident and very happy, working with Oscar, because we have a good communication. It is in Gothenburg and you can take the time and you can have a laugh and if you don’t feel like recording one day, then it is okay to go home. There is a little bit air to it, if you know what I mean, with a little glimpse in the eyes. So we in The Halo Effect worked really well with Oscar on these two albums and everyone is really happy with it when he came on board.
That is the most important thing…
It is, because if we got another producer or another engineer instead of Oscar, maybe that… it can be great of course, it can be awesome, but it would be challenging and maybe dreadful because this person’s got to know what we want as a band from the production and the album, what we want and that is something that sometimes can be very hard to explain to someone who does not know us.
By the way, Mikael Stanne has a very, very busy life these days…
Three great bands to promote, indeed (laughs). As long as he is happy and has the health, then he should just go for it. I think so. I support it.
The colour from the album is pretty different from the former one. This time it is blue and green, turquoise… does it have a kind of importance for you as well?
Mikael is the mastermind with all these covers, along with the great artist Adrian Baxter and then Niklas Sundin does all the layout and the work with that. That is a team in itself, but I think Mikael had a strong vision about how we wanted it to look like. I think that Adrian Baxter caught that vision and did it justice. I think it is one of those covers where you can go back in time after five years, pick it up and say ‘hey, I did not see that detail’. It is very detailed. It is like watching an old Iron Maiden album or Morbid Angel’s ‘Altars of Madness’. You find new stuff all the time, which is really interesting. I think it is important to have a cover that you like and can stand behind and you have the right feel for it, because for us it is so important to have something that showcases Gothenburg on the cover art and also we are deeply in love with the colour green.