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IRON MAIDEN's STEVE HARRIS: “it's amazing that this band's been going for 50 years”

Photo by John McMurtrie (courtesy of Live Nation)

19-12-2024

IRON MAIDEN bassist Steve Harris spoke to Music Radar about the band’s upcoming 50th-anniversary tour, which will take place in 2025 and 2026. The “Run For Your Lives” world trek will see Harris and his bandmates perform classic songs off their first nine studio albums, from their 1980 debut “Iron Maiden” to 1992’s “Fear Of The Dark”, which marked singer Bruce Dickinson‘s last album before he exited the group and then later returned in 1999.

“It’s amazing that this band’s been going for 50 years,” the 68-year-old Steve told Music Radar. “When you really think about it, it’s insane. How many songs we’ve done, how many albums, how many tours… it’s outrageous. And it’s fantastic to see so many young people in the audience now. A couple of shows that we did recently, we had youngsters, real youngsters, like nine or ten years old, and then some others like teens or early twenties. So we’re still generating new fans all the time. And I think that’s because we put on a good, entertaining show. We’re still playing really well. And for all those young people turning up, I think a lot of them — dare I say it — I don’t think they’ve seen anything like it. We’re seeing all these young people in the front row, and they must think we’re ancient now. Well, we are, I suppose. You know, when I was 17, I thought that 25 was old.”

Harris is now 68, but he keeps himself fit playing sports.

“I still play football,” he says. “I played twice in Australia during the last tour. I played tennis a few times on this tour, too. And I beat this guy who was in his twenties. So I’m still doing something right, I think.

“The way I look at it, you’ve got to do it while you physically can still do it. Although I will say, I’ve seen videos of me playing football, running down the wing, and I think that I’m pretty fast, but when you watch the video back, it’s like, ‘Oh shit! It’s not that fast at all.’ But it’s different with the band.”

He cites Mick Jagger, now 81, as the perfect example of a veteran rock star still capable of performing at a high level. And he adds, with tongue firmly in cheek, that he might get some fitness tips from Jagger now that there is a family connection between Maiden and The Rolling Stones following the wedding this summer of Harris’ daughter Faye to Ronnie Wood’s son Tyrone.

“Mick Jagger has set the bar, fitness-wise,” Harris says. “I don’t know what he does exactly, regime-wise, to keep himself fit, but he’s in good shape. And I’m in-laws with Ronnie now, so I could probably ask him and find out! He’s a really nice guy, Ronnie. The first time I met him was when he came to see Maiden and he’s great, very down to earth.”

As for the future of Iron Maiden and British Lion, Harris says he is happy to continue touring with both bands for as long as possible.

“The funny things is, when I go out with British Lion and we’re playing in clubs, it’s the same thing that I was doing with Maiden in the early days.

“I missed that sort of challenge, that era of not knowing if people are gonna turn up or not, and trying to just get as many people in as possible.

“You got more butterflies in your stomach back then with Maiden, because you weren’t sure what you were gonna get. And I like that feeling – not the butterflies, necessarily, but I like the feeling of the challenge.

“And I love doing both – Maiden and British Lion – because I’m the sort of person that likes to keep busy. I’m always doing something or other, always on the go.

“Where I live in The Bahamas, it’s incredible, but I can’t spend more than 30 or 40 minutes on the beach. I’ve lived there a long time. I always wanted to after we made albums there (Iron Maiden recorded three albums in the ’80s at Compass Point studios in Nassau, capital of The Bahamas).

“Living there, I thought it might help chill me out a little bit,” he laughs. “And it has made me chill out a tiny bit. But as soon as I get home I’m already thinking about the next tour – and that’s great, because it’s what I love doing.”

IRON MAIDEN have announced their new touring drummer last week. Stepping in as the replacement for Nicko McBrain will be Simon Dawson, a former session drummer and MAIDEN bassist Steve Harris‘s longtime bandmate in BRITISH LION. He was also drummer in the Dani Filth fronted band DEVILMENT and for DEARLY BEHEADED.

MAIDEN released the following statement: “As ‘The Future Past Tour’ concludes after 81 shows to over 1.4 million fans, from Ljubljana to the Coachella Valley and from Western Australia to Sao Paulo, IRON MAIDEN are delighted to announce that stepping in behind the kit for 2025 is a name familiar to many of our fans — Simon Dawson, a former session drummer and Steve‘s rhythm section partner of the past 12 years with BRITISH LION.

“A native of Suffolk, England, Simon first teamed up with Steve Harris back in 2012. He debuted on three tracks on the first BRITISH LION album and all of the second critically acclaimed ‘The Burning’, plus the many subsequent tours in the US, UK, Europe, Australia, Japan, New Zealand &, most recently, both Mexico and South America.

IRON MAIDEN celebrate their 50th Anniversary next year with ‘The Run For Your Lives Tour’ starting in Budapest on May 27th.”

Nicko revealed on Saturday (December 7) that he was quitting touring with the group after 42 years. The 72-year-old British musician, whose real name is Michael Henry McBrain, announced his retirement in a statement on MAIDEN‘s web site and social media. He also said Saturday night’s concert at Allianz Parque in São Paulo, Brazil would mark his final show with the legendary rock band.

Nicko wrote: “After much consideration, it is with both sorrow and joy, I announce my decision to take a step back from the grind of the extensive touring lifestyle. Today, Saturday, December 7th, Sao Paulo will be my final gig with IRON MAIDEN. I wish the band much success moving forward.

“I will, however, remain firmly part of the IRON MAIDEN family working on a variety of projects, my long time managers, Rod Smallwood and Andy Taylor, have in mind for me. I’ll also be working on a variety of different personal projects and focusing on my existing businesses and ventures, including The British Drum CompanyNicko McBrain’s Drum OneTITANIUM TART, and of course, Rock-N-Roll Ribs!

“What can I say? Touring with MAIDEN the last 42 years has been an incredible journey! To my devoted fan base, you made it all worthwhile and I love you! To my devoted wife, Rebecca, you made it infinitely easier and I love you! To my kids, Justin and Nicholas, thank you for understanding the absences and I love you! To my friends that are always there for me, I love you! To my bandmates, you made it a dream come true and I love you!

“I look into the future with much excitement and great hope! I’ll be seeing you soon, may God bless you all, and, of course, ‘Up the Irons!'”

Watch his last moments on stage below.

AIDEN‘s longtime manager Rod Smallwood of Phantom Music Management commented: “Nicko, and we all love you too!! Thank you for being an irrepressible force behind the drum kit for MAIDEN for 42 years and my friend for even longer. I speak on behalf of all the band when I say we will miss you immensely!

“Ever since Rock In Rio in 1985 we have had a special relationship with Brazil so to bow out of touring in front of 90,000 fans here in Sao Paulo over 2 nights is poetic and you are deserving of all the accolades I am sure these marvellous fans will give you on this last show.

Phantom look forward to many more years of working with you on the projects you mentioned and I am sure we can find a few more special ones around the MAIDEN family and FC!

“The band and I all have a thousand great memories of the past 42 years, great gigs, copious platinum and gold discs and awards, love from the fans and one beer too many on too many occasions! Such a bond is forever! And, as Steve Harris says, ‘Nicko is and will always be part of the MAIDEN family’.

“P.S. MAIDEN always get their man and our already chosen new drummer will be announced very shortly.”

In January 2023, Nicko McBrain, who has been the drummer for the heavy metal band IRON MAIDEN since 1982, was at his home in Boca Raton when he suffered a stroke with partial paralysis. That was the beginning of a challenging journey of physical rehabilitation that followed rapid and precise treatment by stroke specialists at Marcus Neuroscience Institute at Boca Raton, Florida’s Boca Raton Regional Hospital, part of Baptist Health.

McBrain addressed his health issues during an appearance on a recent episode of The Washington Tattoo podcast. He said: “It happened on January the 19th last year. I was actually having cataract surgery that day. And I guess there was a lot of stress and angst, with somebody messing with your peepers. And I was getting them both done at the same time. In the old days, I’d do one at a time just in case it didn’t work. You’d be walking around blind in one eye, not both. And I had it on good authority that’s the only reason they don’t like to do, even today, both at the same time. But I had confidence in the surgeon, with the way they do it nowadays. And I said, ‘Oh, can I get done both at the same time?’ ‘Yeah, no problem.'”

He continued: “Anyway. So I remember I was watching some tennis on the telly. I was up at six o’clock in the morning, which is unusual for me, ’cause I get up about 7:00, 7:30 nowadays. And I got up and I was a little bit anxious. And I lazed on the chaise lounge, and I went to sleep. About eight o’clock I thought, ‘I’m gonna have a nap. I feel really tired.’ And I woke up about 45 minutes later, and I’d had this stroke. And I thought it was pins and needles, but I couldn’t feel the pins and needles. I picked my arm up, going, ‘What’s going on here?’ And I could feel (the arm) but nothing was happening… And I let my arm go and it just dropped, and I’m, like, ‘Oh, shit. Something ain’t right.’ And it didn’t paralyze my leg, although my leg was wobbly. Which is a good thing, because my foot still worked. At least one saving grace — God gave me my right foot. It’s not quite as good as it was, but… Anyway, I went to the doctors, or they took me to the hospital. I had a whole team of people work around me. It was like I was a superstar. And they didn’t even know who I was. That’s the sort of treatment that everybody gets when they have a stroke and they go to the Boca Baptist Hospital, (Baptist Health) Boca (Raton) Regional (Hospital). They have a crew of, like, 12 people around you instantly, no matter who you are. And so after the MRI — they did a CT scan, then I went to an MRI. And (when) I came out, (Marc ASwerdloff, my neurologist doctor, he had a plethora of students around him, and he had about six kids, young ‘uns — I call them kids; they’re probably all in their 20s or 30s. Anyway, he goes, you’ve had a stroke, Mr. McBrain, I went, ‘Yeah, tell me something I don’t know.’ And he laughed. And he said, ‘It’s a TIA.’ I said, ‘Okay, so it’s not a major stroke.’ He said, ‘Yeah.’ He said, ‘We’ve got this drug called TNK (tenecteplase),’ which, what it stands for I’ve no idea. And he said it’s a clot buster, and it prevents any further damage being done to your brain that may have or that has already occurred. He said, ‘But there’s a risk.’ And I said, ‘What’s the risk?’ He said, ‘You could die.’ I went, ‘Okay. So what’s the percentage of failure from people (treated with intravenous tenecteplase)?’ It (was) seven to nine percent. He says, ‘So if you have it, we have to put you in intensive care for 24 hours and monitor you every hour.’ And I went, ‘Well, okay, let’s have it.’ He says, ‘Sign here.’ And I’m right-handed, so I had to put a cross. And he said, ‘Just make out as much as you can.’ I sort of squiggled my name on a line. He gave it to me outside the MRI. About three hours later, I’m upstairs. And finally, I could move my thumb a little bit — the first thing I could move. I was in for two nights, and the day after I got out, I went for therapy, and I had three physiotherapies a week and OT, occupational therapy. My scapula had dropped and apparently my face was down here, although I could talk. So the only thing I had was a paralysis.”

McBrain added: “The first three months of a stroke is where you have the most recovery. After that, the next three months, it’s a little less and then the three months after that, and so on and so forth. I’m over — almost a year and a half now, but it will be next week. What’s the date? Yeah, 10 days’ time. So I’m still not back to where I wanna be. I’ve probably got… I can’t do, I can’t do… So if this is a tempo, I can’t do a 16-note roll going into 32nd-note rolls anymore. What happens is I can play eighth notes, like that kind of groove. I can do doubles, but when I try and play that 16th at that speed, instead of going up and down, it wobbles from left to right, when I start playing fast, when I try to play fast. So I’ve had to adjust my fills now. I mean, I don’t play ‘The Trooper’ fill anymore because I can’t get it… It’s the speed of it. I can do everything slow, but I’ve had to make sure that as long as I can keep the groove of the song, which is normally…”

Elaborating on how his stroke has affected his playing, Nicko said: “We had the rehearsal (for the spring 2023 MAIDEN tour) starting in April (of 2023), end of April. So I had that three months — March, February, March, April. I had 12 weeks of recovery, basically, before I went and had rehearsal. And, so today my routine now is I do the eight on eight to warm up and try and get my fingers working, but they’re not… I’m at the stage now where I’ve peaked. I’ve noticed in some of the rehearsals — I play with the TITANIUM TART (side-project) band I’ve got, which are doing the same set that I’m playing with MAIDEN later this year; we’re doing exactly the same set. I’ve got a couple of gigs coming up this weekend. We rehearse once a week. I’ve got a rehearsal tonight and tomorrow. So, I’m allowed to be out to try these things out. And they’re not working. So, I’ve reverted back to what I was doing with the band last year, which was playing straighter on those kind of fills. (The song) ‘Fear Of The Dark’, I’m getting the triplets again and a couple of the hi-hats snap. Those kind of things. It’s all about the tempo of the songs. When they’re fast, I have a struggle. When they’re slow, I can do it.”

McBrain previously talked about his post-ministroke recovery last December in an interview with Metal Hammer magazine. At the time, he said: “Well, it was very, very difficult. When it first happened, I thought, ‘This is it. I’m not going to be able to play. I’ve got a tour coming up in three months’ time.’ I had a lot of time for reflection in the hospital. My wife was really my bastion of strength and encouragement and she was with me throughout. I did a lot of strength exercises, a lot of stretches with weird weights that they have and I got my stamina back.”

McBrain told Metal Hammer that his MAIDEN bandmates, especially bassist Steve Harris, were very supportive during his recovery.

“Through all this period of time I was in touch with Steve, obviously all the guys, and I’d have a bit of a chat with them on the phone and they were all very, very encouraging, and none more so than Steve,” Nicko said. “He said, ‘Look, the most important thing is that you get well and work on getting yourself together.'”

Last October, Nicko spoke about his latest health scare during an appearance on SiriusXM‘s “Trunk Nation Power Trip Special”. Asked how the shows on MAIDEN’s “The Future Past Tour” have been, Nicko said: “It’s going great. It started off a little shaky for me, but as the time  went on and the more shows we performed, I started to get a little bit more strength and they’d been really rocking out well. And the last couple of months have been fantastic.”

The 72-year-old McBrain also talked about his recovery in more detail and touched upon how his health setback affected his drumming. He said: “I’m doing good right now. I’m still probably — I’d say I’m 85 to 90 percent back to strength, but I still have a little less dexterity with speed in my fingers. My fingers are the ones that — this is the last thing to strengthen up. But I had to change certain drum fills. Some fills that everybody knows me for on certain songs, I’ve had to improvise those at rehearsals to be able to actually play the songs. So now I’m starting to actually be able to kind of embrace it a bit more. And I can’t do that live. I have to wait until we start doing some rehearsals again or whatever it is. But I’m definitely getting stronger. And I’ve had great support from (MAIDEN manager) Rod (Smallwood), the band, and all of the fans out there. They’ve been absolutely — they’ve shown me so much love, it’s amazing.”

When Nicko first went public with his stroke in August 2023, the drummer said in a statement that the episode left him “paralyzed” down one side of his body and “worried” that his career with the band was over.

McBrain‘s statement read as follows: “I hope this message finds you all well!

“The reason I’m writing to you all today is to let you know of a very serious health problem that I have been through. In January I had a stroke, thank the Lord it was a minor one referred to as a TIA. It left me paralyzed on my right side from my shoulder on down, of course I was very worried that my career was over but with the love and support from my wife, Rebecca and family, my doctors, especially Julie my OT (Occupational Therapist), and my MAIDEN family I was able to bounce back to somewhere near 70% recovered. After 10 weeks of intense therapy it was almost time to start rehearsals for our tour.

“I feel it’s important to let you know about this now instead of earlier as I was mainly concerned with doing my job and concentrating on getting back to 100% fitness. I’m not there yet but by the grace of God I’m getting better and stronger as the weeks go by.

“Thank you all for a most wonderful and magical tour so far, you have all been so amazing.

“Well that’s it from me. God bless you all, stay safe and well and I look forward to seeing you all somewhere in time. “

Smallwood added: “The rest of the band and l think that what Nicko has been able to achieve since his stroke shows incredible belief and willpower and we are all very proud of him. With this new and musically very complex set to learn ahead of him, he just got his head down and concentrated on recovery. We honestly did not know if he would be able to play a whole show until band rehearsals started in May and there was just so much support for him from the band and then genuine relief for all when we saw he was going to be able to do it!

Nicko being Nicko he did not want to make a fuss and cause any distraction to the tour at the time but, now that he is sure he will soon get there, he thought you fans should know straight from him rather than by any rumours! We are all of course delighted he battled through this so well and look forward to many more tours together!”

Four years ago, McBrain was diagnosed with stage 1 laryngeal cancer and opened up about it in a single interview in 2021 but otherwise kept it mostly under wraps. The musician received his cancer diagnosis after undergoing an endoscopy at the Sylvester Comprehensive Cancer Center, part of the University Of Miami Health System and the Miller School of Medicine. Within a week, McBrain‘s cancer was surgically removed and he now gets check-ups every few months to make sure the cancer hasn’t returned.

McBrain, who had the cancer in a part of his vocal cords, isn’t the first member of MAIDEN to beat cancer. Back in late 2014, IRON MAIDEN‘s Bruce Dickinson was diagnosed with throat cancer. The singer, who had a golf gall-size tumor on his tongue and another in the lymph node on the right side of his neck, got the all-clear in May 2015 after radiation and nine weeks of chemotherapy.

In a 2015 interview with OverdriveMcBrain admitted that he thought MAIDEN was over when it was discovered that Dickinson had a cancerous tumor. “Well, I’d be a liar if I didn’t think for a minute that IRON MAIDEN was finished,” he said. “But I thought more about the possibility of losing my friend than anything else, to be honest. Then later, I was thinking, ‘God forbid if the worst ever happened, the legacy would be the last 16 albums.'”

McBrain, who is a dedicated Christian, continued: “I’ve got to be honest, I did question his mortality at one point and thankfully that didn’t last long. Honestly, I got down on my knees and said a prayer, picked my thoughts up and got positive about it all, thinking to myself, ‘If anyone can beat this, it’s Bruce.’ He’s so positive about everything he’s ever done in his life, or whatever he is about to do. Basically, I prayed for him and my prayers were answered, as well as everybody else that knows and cares for him.”

IRON MAIDEN‘s last album “Senjutsu” came out in September 2021 on Warner records. It marked MAIDEN‘s second consecutive double album behind 2015’s “The Book Of Souls” which is the longest MAIDEN album, with a running time of 92 minutes.

The full track listing is:

01. Senjutsu (8:20) (Smith/Harris)
02. Stratego (4:59) (Gers/Harris)
03. The Writing On The Wall (6:13) (Smith/Dickinson)
04. Lost In A Lost World (9:31) (Harris)
05. Days Of Future Past (4:03) (Smith/Dickinson)
06. The Time Machine (7:09) (Gers/Harris)
07. Darkest Hour (7:20) (Smith/Dickinson)
08. Death Of The Celts (10:20) (Harris)
09. The Parchment (12:39) (Harris)
10. Hell On Earth (11:19) (Harris)

“Senjutsu” was released on the following formats and available to order/save at www.ironmaiden.com:

* Standard 2CD Digipak
* Deluxe 2CD Book Format
* Deluxe heavyweight 180G Triple Black Vinyl
* Special Edition Triple Silver And Black Marble Vinyl (Details to follow)
* Special Edition Triple Red and Black Marble Vinyl (Details to follow)
* Super Deluxe Boxset featuring CD, Blu Ray and Exclusive Memorabilia
* Digital album [streaming and download]

IRON MAIDEN hadn’t released any fresh music since 2015’s “The Book Of Souls” LP, which was recorded in late 2014 in Paris, France with Shirley.

“The Book Of Souls” was the longest MAIDEN album, clocking in at 92 minutes, with lyrics heavily based in the themes of death, reincarnation, the soul and mortality.

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