METAL CHURCH's KURDT VANDERHOOF “black metal is garbage to me”
15-08-2023
In a new interview with Ruben Mosqueda of We Go To 11, METAL CHURCH guitarist and founding member Kurdt Vanderhoof spoke about his disdain for a lot of the newer extreme metal bands, particularly groups of the “darker metal” variety. He said: “I hate it. I hate that black metal, Satanic, screamo stuff. It’s garbage to me… I don’t like black metal. I don’t like any of that kind of stuff. I like the stuff that I initially liked. The New Wave Of British Heavy Metal stuff — I love that stuff. I don’t listen to the new Satanic stuff at all.”
When Mosqueda brought up British black metal pioneers VENOM as a band that had Satanic lyrics but that was “almost cartoony” in its delivery, Kurdt said: “They were awful. But they were funny. They made you laugh. You listen to the lyrics and you’re, like, ‘Yeah, right.’ … It’s not my bag — never has been.”
Fan-filmed video of METAL CHURCH‘s August 11 performance at the Alcatraz festival in Kortrijk, Belgium became available. METAL CHURCH made its live debut with the band’s new vocalist Marc Lopes (ROSS THE BOSS, LET US PREY) on June 3 at the Legions Of Metal festival at Reggies in Chicago, Illinois.
Watch the performance at Alcatraz below.
Lopes joined METAL CHURCH in the summer of 2022 as the replacement for Mike Howe, who tragically passed away in July of 2021. The band’s current lineup is rounded out by founding guitarist Kurdt Vanderhoof, guitarist Rick Van Zandt, bassist Steve Unger and drummer Stet Howland.
Lopes‘s first studio album with METAL CHURCH, “Congregation Of Annihilation”, came out on May 26 via Rat Pak Records (America) and Reaper Entertainment (Europe). The LP was produced by Vanderhoof.
In a recent interview with Chris Akin Presents, Lopes spoke about the inevitable barrage of criticism that he will receive as a result of stepping into the role previously occupied by Howe, David Wayne and Ronny Munroe. He said: “Being in ROSS THE BOSS (the band led by former MANOWAR guitarist Ross ‘The Boss’ Friedman), I have faced so much stupid bullshit from fans, from MANOWAR fans. At the beginning, it bothered me, years back. Now I can give two shits; I don’t fucking care. Because, you know what? If you fucking start worrying about what other people think, you’ll never get anywhere. And the way I look at it is, it’s, like, look, if you like it, great. If you don’t, then fucking go somewhere else. I don’t really give a shit. I know that I’m giving it everything that I have to do it and make it sound as best as possible. And if you don’t like it, why am I gonna sit here and try to fucking satisfy you? I don’t fucking care. I mean, obviously, if everybody fucking hates it, then probably I shouldn’t do the gig. But with much respect to the METAL CHURCH community, they’ve been amazing; they love this new stuff.
“I’ve gotta be honest — the anticipation is insane, and it’s making me more… I’m definitely nervous,” Marc admitted. “But at the same time, I’m, like, look, I’ve gotta go out and do my thing. And the reason that I was put in charge of doing this new era of the band was because I am putting my own spin on it. Am I gonna sound like David Wayne? Maybe in some aspects. Am I gonna sound like Mike Howe? Maybe in some aspects. Am I gonna sound like Marc Lopes? Abso-fucking-lutely. And that’s really what it comes down to.
“If this is my era of the band, then I have to do what I do best. Trying to imitate it isn’t gonna do anybody any good. And the funny thing is, Ronny Munroe is amazing — he’s a great vocalist — and he sounded more like David Wayne than me.
“I’ve gotta be honest: at first, I was, like, ‘Fuck, man. How am I gonna do this?’ (Then I was, like), ‘Wait a minute. You’re already approaching it wrong.’ Kurdt would always be, like, ‘You’re already approaching it wrong.’
“Those guys are not imitatable because they are who they are… And Ronny has his own style too, and the stuff that he did was great. It just was a weird era for the band, I think, in the totality part of it…
“I already know there are gonna be the haters,” Marc added. “And I don’t care. And for those people — if you wanna waste your time with that kind of shit, then go for it. There’s way more things to spend time on in life than being out there going, ‘I hate this.’ It’s kind of ridiculous.
“The biggest joke is I’m a huge IRON MAIDEN fan and I never liked the Blaze Bayley era. And we always used to joke about it. I was, like, I’m a huge MAIDEN fan. Do I spend my time going, ‘Oh my God. I hate that. And I hate this.’ It’s, like, why? I don’t listen to it. (Laughs) Not everybody’s gonna like everything you do. It’s just the way it is.”
When Lopes‘s addition to METAL CHURCH was first announced in early February, Vanderhoof wrote in a social media post: “We auditioned a handful of vocalists and while they were all great, Marc quickly became the clear choice.
“Both David Wayne and Mike Howe had a very unique, irreplaceable quality to their voices, so we were not looking for a clone of either. We wanted someone new, who could embrace the past, and also bring something fresh and exciting to the mix.
“Marc brings a very classic yet modern feel to the songs.”
In an interview with Heavy New York, Vanderhoof described “Congregation Of Annihilation” as “definitely more aggressive and more back to our thrash roots”. Regarding how the LP’s tougher sound came about, he said: “I had written an album. Mike and I had just started writing and working on a new album. So I wrote a new album. And Mike and I started the process of collaborating. And then, obviously, he passed away. Then there was a few months of trying to decide if I even wanted to continue. But then, when we decided to continue, it was kind of a step-by-step process. So when things started working with Marc, there was definitely much more aggressiveness in his vocals and his delivery, and that seemed like a good way to go. I didn’t want a Mike clone. If we were gonna continue, I wanted to kind of have it be another chapter — something a little bit different. Just a new phase — a new old phase, I guess you could say. So when that started happening, when things worked out with Marc, it was, like, ‘Okay, that’s definitely making the trajectory that we’re going.’ So a good batch of the songs that I wrote with Mike in mind fell by the wayside, and a part of the album was brand new material, to fit with our new direction.”
Asked if Marc adds a new dimension to the METAL CHURCH sound, Kurdt said: “Yeah, absolutely. He definitely brings his own thing to it. But he also very much honors the past and our sound and what METAL CHURCH musically is all about.”
Howe was found dead at his home in Eureka, California in July 2021. According to TMZ, Howe‘s official cause of death was determined to be asphyxia due to hanging. A spokesperson for the Humboldt County Sheriff’s Dept. told the site authorities are calling it a suicide. He was only 55 years old.
According to police, drugs and alcohol are not believed to be factors in the death and no controlled substances or paraphernalia were located at the scene.
Howe, who fronted METAL CHURCH from 1988 until 1994, officially rejoined the band in April 2015.
Howe is not the first singer of METAL CHURCH to die. David Wayne passed away in May 2005 from complications following a car crash. He was 47 years old.
Wayne sang on METAL CHURCH‘s first two classic offerings (1984’s “Metal Church” and 1986’s “The Dark”) before leaving the group and being replaced by Howe.
“Congregation Of Annihilation” features nine all new tracks from METAL CHURCH and continues to build upon their iconic sound the band established over three decades ago. Infused with intelligent lyrical content, thundering guitar riffs, and Marc‘s aggressive soaring vocals, “Congregation Of Annihilation” furthers the bands sonic evolution up to the next level and is guaranteed to enthrall metal music fans around the world. From the first guitar riff of album opener “Another Judgement Day” through the driving outro of album closer “All That We Destroy”, it is clear METAL CHURCH is back and better than ever. “Congregation Of Annihilation”, “Children Of The Lie” and “These Violent Thrills” showcase the sonically charged songwriting that made the early METAL CHURCH albums such fan favorites. Haunting musical opuses “Me The Nothing” and “Making Monsters” each puts the musicianship that METAL CHURCH was known for on full display in 2023. The album also features two bonus tracks: “My Favorite Sin” and “Salvation”.
“Congregation Of Annihilation” track listing:
01. Another Judgement Day
02. Congregation Of Annihilation
03. Pick A God And Prey
04. Children Of The Lie
05. Me The Nothing
06. Making Monsters
07. Say A Prayer With 7 Bullets
08. These Violent Thrills
09. All That We Destroy
10. My Favorite Sin(bonus track)
11. Salvation (bonus track)
When Lopes‘s addition to METAL CHURCH was first announced in early February, Vanderhoof wrote in a social media post: “We auditioned a handful of vocalists and while they were all great, Marc quickly became the clear choice.
“Both David Wayne and Mike Howe had a very unique, irreplaceable quality to their voices, so we were not looking for a clone of either. We wanted someone new, who could embrace the past, and also bring something fresh and exciting to the mix.
“Marc brings a very classic yet modern feel to the songs and we are looking forward to getting this new album out to you later this year (via Rat Pak Records)!”
Howe was found dead at his home in Eureka, California in July 2021. According to TMZ, Howe‘s official cause of death was determined to be asphyxia due to hanging. A spokesperson for the Humboldt County Sheriff’s Dept. told the site authorities are calling it a suicide. He was only 55 years old.
When Mike‘s death was first announced, TMZ stated that cops in Eureka got a call just after 10 a.m. on July 26, 2021 reporting an unexpected death at a home. By the time deputies arrived, they found Howe dead at the scene.
According to police, drugs and alcohol are not believed to be factors in the death and no controlled substances or paraphernalia were located at the scene.
Four days after Howe‘s death, the surviving members of METAL CHURCH shared a statement on social media in which they blamed his suicide on the fact that he “was victimized by a failing health-care system and subsequently poisoned by the venom of Big Pharma,” a term which refers collectively to the global pharmaceutical industry. “In short and in essence, he fell prey to the real ‘Fake Healer’.”
METAL CHURCH‘s statement was quickly met with criticism from some of the band’s fans who felt that the long-running metal act was using Howe‘s death as a platform to assert its political views. As a result, METAL CHUCH pulled its original post from social media and replaced it with a revised version, in which the musicians said they were “in no way, shape or form referring to anything in relation to vaccinations, COVID or politics. We were saying our brother was hurting and while he was seeking medical care for it, the treatments he was utilizing did not protect him,” they wrote. “Otherwise, he would still be with us today.”
Howe, who fronted METAL CHURCH from 1988 until 1994, officially rejoined the band in April 2015.
Prior to joining METAL CHURCH more than three decades ago, Howe spent two years fronting California metal act HERETIC.
The reunion between Mike and METAL CHURCH was put in motion in July of 2014 when Mike started working with Vanderhoof on a side project Kurdt was forming with Nigel Glockler from SAXON. Through these initial conversations, Kurdt convinced Mike to ultimately return to METAL CHURCH. The idea was to see if they could recapture some of the magic from the three albums METAL CHURCH released in the late ’80s: “The Human Factor”, “Blessing In Disguise” and “Hanging In The Balance”. Out of those sessions, 2016’s “XI” was born and captured the sound that made the band fan favorites in the ’80s and mixed it with a new, invigorated sound.
METAL CHURCH‘s latest release was “From The Vault”, which arrived in April 2020 via Rat Pak Records. The effort was a special-edition compilation album that featured 14 previously unreleased songs from the Howe era, including four newly recorded studio tracks, among them a redux of the band’s fan favorite classic “Conductor”.
Howe is not the first singer of METAL CHURCH to die. David Wayne passed away in May 2005 from complications following a car crash. He was 47 years old.
Wayne sang on METAL CHURCH‘s first two classic offerings (1984’s “Metal Church” and 1986’s “The Dark”) before leaving the group and being replaced by Howe.
Left to right in photo: Stet Howland (drums), Steve Unger (bass), Marc Lopes (vocals), Rick Van Zandt (guitars), Kurdt Vanderhoof (guitars)
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