In a new interview with “The Garza Podcast”, hosted by SUICIDE SILENCE guitarist Chris Garza, MACHINE HEAD frontman Robb Flynn spoke about his band’s upcoming eleventh studio album, “Unatoned”, which will be released on April 25 via Nuclear Blast/Imperium Recordings. Regarding his songwriting approach for the follow-up to “Of Kingdom And Crown”, which came out in August 2022, Robb said: “My last album was like a huge renaissance for the band. It just was fucking crazy. We headlined Hellfest (in France). It was our tenth record. It was a concept record. It was the first time we ever did a concept record. Opening track was a 10-minute-long song. It’s nuts.

“I’m fortunate enough to have been in this position a handful of times where I now have to follow up this record that is so beloved by fans, by people,” he continued. “It’s incredibly successful — elevates the band to another level. And everybody wants us to write another concept record. Everybody is just, like, ‘You should just make another record like that one.’ And I’m, like, ‘You can’t, because it’s never gonna live up.’ Nothing’s ever gonna live up, because of that moment for so many people. Lars (Ulrich of METALLICA) always talked about this — the reason so many people love (METALLICA‘s) Black Album, it’s, like, they lost the virginity to the Black Album. Nothing is ever gonna top that. People lost their virginity to (MACHINE HEAD‘s) ‘(Unto) The Locust’ or ‘The Blackening’ or whatever. Nothing’s ever gonna top that. That’s just life and stuff.

“So with this record, I set some pretty strict parameters around what I could do,” Flynn explained. “And I’m not a big believer in talking about the direction of a record. I always feel like even if we have done it in the past, it never panned out. ‘Oh, it’s gonna be the heaviest or the thrashing’ or the whatever, and you’ve just gotta follow it to wherever it goes… But I did want to put some structure around it. The last record had a bunch of long songs, so I was, like, ‘I don’t want any song longer than four minutes on this record.’ So that was one structure. The other structure is — I’m a huge SLAYER fan to the death; they’re one of my favorite bands, life-changing bands of all times. And one of the most underrated things about SLAYER is their genius use of chord changes — chord changes fucking galore all over every song. They’d have, like, three different chord changes in the lead section, and it the way it sets up the chorus or whatever. So I was, like, ‘Every song has to have a chord change outside of the typical structure that you would expect.’ … At some point it’s gotta go to a key change that totally doesn’t go with where the rest of the song went. Last thing is that the music in the last chorus had to be different from the music in the first chorus —maybe the drums drop out, maybe the guitars drop out, maybe that’s where the key change happens, but something had to be different. The lyrics would always be the same. And at first it kind of took me a minute to kind of get into that mindset, like, ‘Wow, this is a really challenging way to write,’ but it always just became about trimming the fat, trimming the fat, trimming the fat. And in the end what we came up with was 10 songs plus two instrumentals. It’s 41 minutes — the shortest album in MACHINE HEAD history. And I’m really proud of this thing. I really feel like we’ve got a fucking monster on our hands. It’s just really unique.”

Elaborating on the musical direction of “Unatoned”, Robb said: “It’s not our heaviest record; I would never say that it’s our heaviest record. It’s got a lot of melody. The last song on the record is a… I’m a total sucker for the Elton John piano ballad. I love Chris Stapleton… And that last song ‘Scorn’ is… It’s, like, I’ve been trying to write a piano ballad for four albums in a row now, and I failed four albums in a row. And I finally nailed it with this album. I collaborated with this guy Joel Wanasek. I collaborated with Jordan (Fish), ex-BRING ME THE HORIZON, on the whole album. He actually got a piece on the record, which was really cool — added a really amazing element. I’ve got a few collaborators, like four guys that I work with, but me and this guy, Joel Wanasek, finally nailed down this piano thing… It was the last song I wrote on the record. And I know a lot of people think I’m super Mr. Libtard, social justice warrior guy and that’s just not me, but that’s kind of just what people think and the haters think. And I just started writing about — not that — but I just started writing about, I don’t believe in Trump, but I think the fucking Democrats are a bunch of spineless fucking pussies. And I don’t believe in anything anymore. I believe in myself. And I just wrote all of these lyrics kind of in that mindset. And the last line is, ‘The wings of an angel, the heart of a king, the strength of a lion, the power I bring. I’ve lost faith in everyone, follow no more, my heroes have failed me, they look down on me with their scorn.’ And so I took all of that. I was, like, ‘I don’t have any music, but I really like these lyrics.’ So I came in with Zack (Ohren) — Zack‘s my engineer; he’s my producer. He is fucking awesome; he’s amazing… And I just picked up a guitar and I just said, ‘I’m gonna play four chords here and I’m just gonna make this up as I go. I don’t even know what I’m doing. I just wanna sing over this to something.’ And I did, and I sang it, and I sang it in two takes. I laid out all the lyrics that I had written that morning. I pulled up some shit on my computer. I got two binders of lyrics. I wrote three and a half binders of lyrics from this record alone — just three and a half binders… And I literally sang the song in two takes, and when I was done, I was, like, ‘That song’s fucking done.’ And it’s the last song on the record. And I sent the chords to Joel and I was, like, ‘Hey, like, can you make this into sad piano chords and put it together and kind of reverse engineer the rest of the song?’ And I’ve gotta say, I’m so proud of this song. It’s definitely kind of the outlier of the record, but I really just feel like it’s a special song. And it’s kind of something we’ve never done. And when you’ve been trying to do something for a long time — 15 years, I’ve been trying to write a fucking piano song — and it always just sounded too dorky… And it finally happened on this album.”

Flynn also talked about his general approach to creating art with MACHINE HEAD, saying: “I don’t know what I’m doing. I’m just trying to write music. Alls I ever wanted to do was just play guitar and write songs and sing and make motherfuckers circle pit and make motherfuckers jump and sing and fucking headbang and go crazy. That’s all I’ve ever wanted to do.

“I’m not a businessman. I don’t know what the fucking right decision is,” he continued. “I just know the music that I do and where it comes from, and I do know that I’m really, really, really good at that. I know that. I’m not one of these guys who’s good at a million fucking things — I’m not — but I do know that I’m really, really good at that. And I just try and focus on that. And I’ve got a good team of people that help me make decisions now and I feel like we’ve all got a good head on our shoulders and what MACHINE HEAD needs to be.

“We’re not the heaviest band in the world,” he added. “We’re heavy, but we’ve been around for 32 years, and motherfuckers like you guys (SUICIDE SILENCE) came along and LORNA SHORE and SLAUGHTER TO PREVAIL, and you’re fucking 10 times heavier than we will ever, ever, ever be. I can’t sing like that. I don’t even wanna try to; it’d be fucking ridiculous to. It would sound stupid for my fucking heavy metal Gandalf ass to be fucking trying to sing like that. We found our lane and we’re super lucky that we found our lane and we fucking made that lane a little bit wider and a little bit wider so we can kind of go over here and do this and go over here and do this. But at the end of the day, it’s just MACHINE HEAD music. That’s what it is to me. It’s metal, for sure — a hundred percent.”