
Edensong – Interview met James Byron Schoen (guitars, vocals)
JR: “There is no concept that we specifically created for the band. Rather, it reflects our perspectives and personalities”
Ondanks een staat van dienst die twintig jaar overschrijdt, is de Amerikaanse progressieve rock band Edensong nog steeds een goed bewaard geheim. Met het derde album ‘Our Road To Dust’ lijken nu gelukkig alle stukjes van de puzzel op hun plaats te vallen om te werken aan internationaal succes. Aangezien we zwaar onder de indruk zijn van het nieuwe werkstuk, besloten we contact op te nemen met de bezieler van de band James Byron Schoen (gitaar, zang) en die vertelde ons uitgebreid het verhaal over de band die al zijn vrije tijd in zijn leven opslorpt met creatieve en oorstrelende klanken.
Vera Matthijssens Ι 30 mei 2025
It was a true gem discovery when getting to know Edensong, so let us grace this with an introduction interview at ALOM. How are you doing and where in New York are you living?
Thanks so much!! I really appreciate the kind words. It’s great to chat with you. We’re doing great, finally feeling some payoff from the many years spent away in isolation! We just came off a couple wonderful shows and we’re thrilled to see the new album connecting with so many people, old and new fans alike. We’re based in New York City. I live in the middle of the city, as does TD (Towers), and the other two members live within an hour or two of the city. The long commute makes rehearsing challenging sometimes, but we make it happen for the love of music!
How and when did Edensong come into being?
Edensong actually has its roots in a progressive metal band that TD and I formed in high school (along with the drummer from our previous albums, Tony Waldman). This was probably 1997. The band was initially called Echoes of Eden, and it morphed into Edensong when we all went our separate ways for college and I carried the musical torch for a few years on my own. I formed a mostly new band line-up around that time, inspired by the wide range of music and musicians I was surrounded with at school. This line-up went on to record the debut album ‘The Fruit Fallen’, for which I actually received academic credit from the school lol. Our first show was a wild multimedia rock opera, which was a bit of a self-indulgent disaster, but we survived it and are still here making music more than 20 years later.The band has had a convoluted series of line-up changes over the years (never quite the same between releases), but ¾ of the current band knew each other in high school, so it’s safe to point back to those early Echoes of Eden years as the true beginning of Edensong (unless you want to count the Michael Jackson inspired pop songs that TD and I used to write together when we were 7 years old (hahaha).
How did you get in contact (in your youth) with music, prog and maybe metal? Who are the main inspirations or influences for the band and for you personally?
Tony (prior drummer) introduced us to Metallica and Megadeth in 7th grade. Nick (current drummer) introduced him (and indirectly me and TD) to Dream Theater the following year. We also discovered Rush around the same time. These were such hugely important influences to us growing up and finding our compositional voice in this style. I discovered the real “prog” heavy hitters like Jethro Tull and Yes, as well as more acoustic folk oriented acts like Cat Stevens and Simon and Garfunkel, by listening my way through my dad’s old record collection around the same time. We were also children of the alternative rock and grunge era, so I feel like that also makes its way into the musical soup, especially on the most recent album ‘Our Road To Dust’. Oh, and we played a lot of video games back then, so a lot of those soundtracks (especially the Final Fantasy series) probably inspire some of our more symphonic work (perhaps most noticeable on ‘Years In The Garden Of Years’).
Someone who plays flute in the band is still quite unique and reminds us automatically of Jethro Tull, but how come you made a trademark of it in Edensong? How did that idea grow?
I’m sure Jethro Tull plays a major influence in that, as I’ve been a huge fan most of my life. However, the initial idea for Edensong (after the high school Echoes of Eden days) grew from a concept of “orchestral rock”, where the flute was only one timbre in the ensemble. We also had string players in the band at the time.The flute players at the time were mostly just performing the notes that I wrote for them, and came from a more orchestral background, and the playing didn’t really resemble Tull to my ears. It wasn’t really until Barry joined the band in 2008 that the flute had such a distinct and unique presence in the music. Ironically, Barry isn’t much of a Tull fan, but comes more from a punk/metal and avant-garde classical perspective. Still, I think he blurs the lines nicely and delivers some fierce and occasionally even beautiful flute work. The band has become more and more streamlined over the years as band members leave due to other life choices and commitments, yet Barry has remained, so we are still a “flute band”. The flute has traditionally been a big part of our sound, and it may continue to be or it may not. It’s really hard for us to know what the future holds and we’re more driven by the idea of creating music that interests us at the time than a dedication to a particular “sound”, or instrument or band configuration.
In 2008 the debut album ‘The Fruit Fallen’ was released. How do you look back at this first step to fame? Was there enough feedback?
I think a lot of great early opportunities came out of this debut album. We got quite a bit of nice feedback from reviewers. It attracted the attention of our current label and some progressive rock festivals, which helped me to assemble a stable line-up of the band. Not to mention, it’s an album that sounds unlike anything else in our catalogue, so I’m glad it exists. It was certainly a helpful stepping stone to future work and I don’t think Edensong would be here today had it not been for that album. We’ve also enjoyed revisiting some of those songs in our recent live shows.
The next years Edensong could play live at several festivals and not the least ones. Can you tell something about that?
We were very fortunate to have gotten the early opportunity to open the second (and final) edition of the wonderful 3 Rivers Progressive Rock festival in Pennsylvania, performing with IQ and Kings X, among others. I think we made some contacts there, both with fans and promoters, that helped to pave the way for other festival appearances over the years. RoSfest was a particular US highlight for us, and I still encounter folks who know us primarily from that performance. We have a longstanding relationship with the Terra Incognita festival in Quebec, which seems to have its own audience, and we loved returning recently to play there again.
Also touring came for Edensong I think? With who did you share the road/stage experiences and can you tell about these adventures?
We’ve never been much of a touring band. Having spent the majority of our 20s and early 30s making only a single album, we sort of missed the boat on being able to travel heavily and build a following in that traditional way. Now we’re in our 40s with families and young children and it’s hard to justify the extended time away. Still, we do what we can and we all love to perform, so we will occasionally head out on short tours. Typically these have centred around festival appearances, where we’ll tack on several other live dates. We’ve done a couple co-headlining tours, which were a lot of fun since we got very friendly with the other bands involved. We went through Canada and the Midwest US with Imminent Sonic Destruction in 2017 and then toured the UK in 2018 with Golden Caves from your country..
It seems that in 2011 you started working on a second album. Alone or with the band? What can you tell about the writing process of ‘Years In The Garden Of Years’?
We had a fairly stable band line-up at the time we started working on ‘Years In The Garden Of Years’, having played together at shows and festivals since 2008 and recorded an EP together. The writing process was fairly collaborative, but I think we all felt the burden of trying to craft something “perfect” this time around. The process took an immense amount of time, way more than it reasonably should have. There was a crazy degree of care and obsession that went into the production, as I was handling recording/engineering myself. I learned an immense amount during the making of that record, and am very proud of the result, but also know that I can’t subject myself or my band mates to a process like that ever again.
The making of that album was not easy indeed, but finally it turned out to be a group effort so it seems. So I guess the line-up was different from the first album. The sound or approach too? Was it a concept album?
We started the process with a concept (“time”) and a title (which came to me in a dream as the title of Dream Theater album lol). We developed the main concept into a suite of songs very collaboratively. I can clearly hear ideas from each of us throughout the record. We ended up parting ways with our cellist during the recording process (fortunately the immensely proficient Eric Stephenson was able to step in and record the remaining cello parts for the album in a matter of hours), but otherwise the band remained very stable during the album development.
It took a long time before we now have the third album to enjoy. What happened in the years in between 2016 and now?
I wish I could spin a crazy story about those nine years! But, life definitely needed to take precedence over music for a while, for all of us, but for me especially. I am typically the driver of our projects, but I started out the making of this record feeling very overwhelmed by band responsibilities: the amount of time I needed to put into it vs. the reward. TD once referred to Edensong as harnessing a full grove of oranges for a single glass of juice lol. I was still exhausted by the making of the previous album and the planning of the various tours etc. I was in a place where I felt I wasn’t providing enough support to my (growing) family, in terms of time and money. I needed to place some additional effort into my career outside of Edensong, put a lot of effort into overhauling my business (audio studio), only to have the whole thing shuttered by the pandemic a year later. I took this time for a complete career shift, and have basically just had to chip steadily away at finishing this album a little bit at a time. The other guys have been in a similar place personally, and there have been six Edensong children born in the span of time it took to complete and release this album!!
What can you tell about the writing process this time?
The writing process is honestly the most collaborative it has ever been. I brought several ideas to the table (plus the album title) when we started work on this back in 2019. But those ideas comprise less than half of the album, which is unusual for this band. TD stepped up on this record in a major way, providing multiple song ideas and his own unique voice (literally and compositionally). As a quartet, there’s just more space for each of us and there’s a tighter type of collaboration that can happen organically.

What was the inspiration for the lyrics? Is there a concept or not on ‘Our Road To Dust’? That title sounds like a hint to our mortality?
It is about mortality, yeah. Yet, there are some other themes buried in there as well. I think the concepts for the three main songs that I contributed to the album (“The Illusion Of Permanence”, “Hall Of Statues” and “Our Road To Dust”) are all fairly intertwined. They are all introspective tunes that examine my own reasons for continuing to make music, despite the challenges it brings to myself and those around me, and despite the lack of financial reward or recognition. At times, making music feels as essential as breathing, and at other times I want to give it all up. I’ve recently been trying to enjoy the process more and put less pressure on myself and the band. It’s been working pretty well so far, and I feel like this new chapter of the band is among the most joyous.
You are the main singer, but also the other guys do lead chants I guess? What can you tell about that?
TD “BenBen” Towers actually does a lot of the lead singing on this album as well. He’s featured prominently on ‘These Old Wounds’, ‘Black Crow’, and ‘Book Of Complaints’. He’s featured on the older albums as a background vocalist, but has a very distinctive style there as well. He has a higher voice than mine and I think our timbres complement each other nicely. It’s nice to be able to sing harmonies together live.
Now any thoughts and your comments on some songs if that is alright with you… For instance ‘The Illusion Of Permanence’ seems to me the most hectic song. Done on purpose?
Yeah, I intentionally tried to contribute related songs lyrically/thematically, but very different musically. This song was inspired by an accent pattern that our former keyboardist Stefan had developed. It definitely set the pace for a very frantic/hectic song! I think it’s probably the heaviest we’ve pushed this band so far.
The harmony vocals are done perfectly and ‘Black Crow’ was for me the catchiest song. Do you agree with that?
I love this song. It was originally conceived for one of TD’s other projects which was intended to be entirely a cappella vocals, but his demo really spoke to me, and I ended up arranging it in a different way than he initially intended, which then inspired him to keep adding additional sections and elements. I ultimately even convinced him to bring it to Edensong! We further collaborated with Shelby (Logan Warned) from the UK band Kyros, who developed some of the synth textures to layer in with TD’s a cappella vocals. It was probably the weirdest collaboration/writing process for an Edensong track so far, but I love how it came together and sits on the album.
Please tell something about the singles ‘Hall Of Statues’ and ‘Book Of Complaints’…
‘Hall Of Statues’ and ‘Book Of Complaints’ were among the first songs that we wrote for the album. We actually have been playing these two songs live since 2018. ‘Hall Of Statues’ is a pretty melancholic tune whereas ‘Book Of Complaints’ was comparatively upbeat and catchy (and introduced TD to our audience as a vocalist), so they seemed like good candidates for early singles to display some variety across the record and help to attract fans of different musical styles.
Is the title for ‘Wykkr Bäsct’ random letters because it is an instrumental or not? Amazing song by the way!
Thank you! Yeah, this one tends to confuse people haha. We really enjoy all the confusion so I’m not sure that I should be clearing it up. It’s actually just a strange spelling of “Wicker Basket”. TD was adamant about naming the song ‘Wicker Basket’ despite the rest of our protests, but somehow it happened anyway. TD can be very persuasive. Barry eventually conceded with the caveat that we had to spell it this way lol.
And of course the long epic is the title track, also a highlight on the album. Any of your thoughts about the creation of this song (musically and lyrical) would be nice…
This song seems to be one that really connects with people. The main vocal melody just flew into my head one day and I really didn’t know what to do with it. I really liked it, but wasn’t sure if it would ever belong in an Edensong song. I don’t think we’ve ever had an anthemic sing along section like that before. Of course, the rest of the song is pretty classic prog, with a really cool development section that Barry helped to develop! I think our Jethro Tull influences probably shine through a lot here!
Isn’t Europe easier to catch attention as a progressive band than the US or do I see that wrong? Did you ever play/tour in Europe?
We have yet to play in Europe. We would love to! I don’t think the US necessarily has a large progressive rock scene, but there are several good festivals (though a diminishing number, unfortunately). It’s a big country and hard to tour since the concentration of prog fans is pretty low. Yet there are plenty of progressive bands that do very well over here! And I encounter plenty of people who like this kind of music. I have yet to crack the code to staying “progressive” while being able to just be a “band” rather than a “prog band”.
Another thing that leaps to the eye is that you often work with Bob Katz in the studio. How did you get in contact with him and please tell us a bit about being in the studio with Edensong and him?
Bob Katz has been amazing to work with over the years. As an audio engineer myself, I remember reading his book on mastering and really relating to his philosophy on dynamics. I had the great privilege of sitting beside him during the mastering sessions for both ‘The Fruit Fallen’ and ‘Years in the Garden of Years’ and learned a lot in the process.
‘Our Road To Dust’ is your first album as four piece, but I couldn’t find out who left and what he was playing. Have you always been a quintet then?
We were a quintet at the time we released ‘Years in the Garden of Years’ in 2016. I think we may have been a septet when we released the EP in 2010. I honestly have no idea how many musicians are credited as band members vs. contributors on our debut album. I’d have to look at the booklet and count lol. About the outgoing band members: they are Tony Waldman (drums) and Stefan Paolini (keyboards). They both were hugely important to the writing of the ‘Years in the Garden of Years’ album, and we have all recently connected at Edensong’s New York album release show a few weeks ago. I’d say the door is wide open to collaborating with them again in some capacity down the road.
Do you have ancestors in the Netherlands (since your second name is Schoen, that means ‘shoe’)?
I don’t think I do, but it’s certainly possible! I grew up being told that my surname is German, and then learned later on that it also means shoe in Dutch.
Given praise by Ian Anderson of Jethro Tull that you are one of the best contemporary progrock bands does not happen to everyone. How did that happen with Edensong?
We had gotten an early copy of ‘Years in the Garden of Years’ to him via his publicist and then had completely forgotten about it. I woke up one morning to an email about the album, clearly very positive, but in my still half asleep state couldn’t quite put the pieces together regarding what it was about. It was signed “IA” and as soon as I finally realized, my jaw dropped. To this day, this is one of the most surreal and gratifying moments of my musical life. It was so gracious of him to go on to recommend the band publicly on his website and keep up correspondence for a time. I hope to send a copy of the new album to him as well.
What are your three favourite progressive rock/metal albums of all time?
These may be arbitrary since I love so many albums, but these three come to mind, two from my childhood and one from more recent years: Dream Theater ‘A Change Of Seasons’, Jethro Tull ‘A Passion Play”, Pain Of Salvation “In The Passing Light Of Day’.
What are the plans for the near future?
I purposely left our live schedule very light to make sure we didn’t put too much pressure on ourselves to get back into playing. Now that we have all the heavy lifting behind us, we’re dying to play more shows, so I’ll be actively looking for live opportunities for the band for the next year or two (We would love to come to Europe!). I think we’re also ready to get back to writing the next album and hope it doesn’t take so long this time around.
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Thanks for the support and the detailed and thoughtful questions. Rock on!
