TESTAMENT's CHUCK BILLY talks about upcoming duet with NIGHTWISH's FLOOR JANSEN
07-11-2024
In a new interview with Jaimunji, TESTAMENT frontman Chuck Billy spoke about the band’s upcoming follow-up to 2020’s “Titans Of Creation” album. Asked if the new LP will be a throwback to some of the early TESTAMENT records or if it will once again be a step forward for the band, Chuck said: “I think we’ve always evolved. We never like to go backwards. These songs, definitely the old classic stuff, ‘The Legacy’ and ‘The New Order’, that’s where we came from, those are the first songs we wrote, so definitely that’s who we are, but we always wanna evolve. We don’t wanna do something we’ve done. But I will say the new record, we’re very excited for it ’cause Chris Dovas, the new drummer, it’s probably the most a drummer has worked with Eric (Peterson, TESTAMENT guitarist) writing material, and it shows.’
He continued: “The songs are very strong, very heavy, very fast. We’ve got a little of everything. We’ve got some mid-tempo, but really crushing fast drums. I would even say that we went and put — I don’t wanna say the word ‘ballad’, but it’s a very slow, old classic TESTAMENT vibe, like ‘Return To Serenity’, that we had the confidence and the song is there that we wrote. This record, we’re fired up ’cause, to me, it sounds modern. That’s the one thing I’ve gotta say. It’s TESTAMENT but modern-sounding, just because I think Chris, he shifts another gear on the songs. I mean, he just puts it to another level as far as the drum playing and inspiring Eric to what he’s doing. And it actually opens up the doors for me, challenge-wise, to not just take it the easy way out. I’ve really had some challenges — a lot more screaming death metal, mid-tempo clean vocals. I’m doing a little bit of everything. So that’s the fun part for me and the challenging part, is to make it all work.”
Regarding a possible release date for the new TESTAMENT album, Chuck said: “We went in the studio, I wanna say May. So we’ve been tracking, recording since. Of course we’ve used Andy Sneap in the past to mix our records, but he’s not gonna be available because he’s in JUDAS PRIEST now. So we had to find a new producer and he’s not available until January. So that kind of bought us a little more time to take our time with the record. I’ve got three songs to sing. Alex (Skolnick, TESTAMENT lead guitarist) has his solos to lay down. Drums, rhythms, everything else is done, bass is done. Just a few things. And then once January comes off, we’ll go right into mixing it. And we’ll probably, hopefully have the first single out shortly after that. But I could definitely see the record being out by the end of the first quarter, maybe the second quarter next year.”
Billy also confirmed that one of the new TESTAMENT songs will be a duet with Floor Jansen of NIGHTWISH. “Yeah, I reached out to her,” he said. “Me and Floor became friends maybe under 10 years ago. Me and her, Joey Belladonna (ANTHRAX), Udo Dirkschneider (ex-ACCEPT), we all did this Christmas performance show through Europe. And we were singing our songs, but with a Christmas theme with an orchestra. And so we all traveled together and became friends. And she’s a powerhouse of a vocalist. Great voice. And when we wrote the song and the lyrics, first thing I thought was, ‘Okay, this song, it, it needs a strong girl’s voice,’ and, of course, Floor is the first one that came to mind. And this song, it’s gonna be pretty epic. We’re gonna put a string section on it, acoustic guitars. It’s gonna have a lot going on, but it’s a really, really beautiful song. It’s really deep. And with Floor, it’s kind of me and her kind of singing the lyrics kind of to each other, and the meaning of the song and what we’re saying, it’s kind of, like, I’ll say my part and she’s answering me through the vocal. So it’s gonna be very strong, very cool. And I can’t wait to hear what she’s gonna do on it… We haven’t sent it to her because we haven’t laid down the acoustic guitars yet for it, but the song’s done. I tracked it all. I tracked her parts. And I wanna wait till she hears it for the first time with the acoustics and get the vibe — I want her to be in the vibe once she gets it… And Alex has a connection to some guys that are gonna do the strings on it, who played on some huge records, so what we’ve heard so far, it’s pretty cool.”
Earlier this year TESTAMENT announced they have tapped Swedish producer Jens Bogren, who has previously worked with OPETH, KREATOR, PARADISE LOST, SOILWORK and AMON AMARTH, among others, to mix their upcoming studio album. The LP will mark TESTAMENT‘s follow-up to 2020’s “Titans Of Creation”, which was co-produced by Juan Urteaga, who previously worked with TESTAMENT on “Dark Roots Of Earth” (2012) and “Brotherhood Of The Snake” (2016).
TESTAMENT guitarist and main songwriter Eric Peterson discussed the band’s upcoming album in a new interview with Brutal Planet Magazine. He said: “It’s, like, 90 percent done. And it’s gonna get mixed in December by Jens Bogren. He’s a producer from Sweden, and he’s done — God, he’s done KREATOR, he’s doing the new BEHEMOTH right now, he’s done IN FLAMES, ARCH ENEMY. A lot of European bands. We usually work with Andy Sneap, but he’s the touring guitarist in JUDAS PRIEST and he’s just, like, ‘Bro, I need some time off.’ It’s a good switch, though. I think Jens will do a good job. And yeah, there’s a lot of crazy stuff on this record. I’m excited for everybody to hear it.”
Chuck Billy told Oran O’Beirne of Overdrive.ie about the progress of the recording sessions for the band’s follow-up to “Titans Of Creation”: “Eric and Chris (Dovas, TESTAMENT drummer) have been working together since around November. And we had a few shows thrown in there early in the year. We got into the studio, I believe, maybe end of April, beginning of May, we started recording ’em, about 11 tracks ready to go. All the music was done and we started the recording process. I still needed to go write some lyrics. We really wanted to get the record done before we came over to Europe (in early July). I have seven tracks finished. Eric has a bunch of guitar tracks. The drums are finished. The only thing left is the bass and Alex (Skolnick, TESTAMENT guitarist), lead-guitar stuff. Between this tour, when we get home in two weeks, we’ll go back in the studio and finish up, continue on, and then we start the American leg with KREATOR and POSSESSED. And then between that break, we’ll try to get everything finished up. Then we go back to Europe, again with KREATOR and ANTHRAX. We plan to, I think, start mixing in December, January. That’s the goal.”
Regarding the musical direction of the new TESTAMENT material, Chuck said: “We always try to outdo ourselves or make a better record or write better songs. It’s always a challenge for ourselves, and I think this time we really took a long time to create the record. We kind of got everybody in the same room to really go through the songs and kind of put their two cents in to the arrangements. I think by having Chris — he’s a younger drummer, a really great drummer — but I think he brought you know a new fire to Eric in the writing process. And I believe because we’re going on 37 years of making records, it’s kind of full circle right now. We’re kind of inspired by new generation, I guess, of music and metal. And Chris is a big part of that. He’s a big fan of that. So I think he inspired Eric just to write some really aggressive, fast, creative riffs. And it really inspired me to really push myself to try to do a little more screaming, death vocals, melodic stuff. We even went as far as writing — I don’t wanna say ‘ballad’, but it’s something really catchy that’s really slow that’s something we haven’t done in over 30 years. So I think just the overall songs and the confidence in the writing this time really is gonna stand out on this record.”
When O’Beirne noted that TESTAMENT continues to “raise the bar” with each successive release, Billy concurred. “It’s true,” he said. “I think since 2000, ‘The Gathering’ record is where I think TESTAMENT kind of had a new life, I’d say the second life TESTAMENT. And then I became ill. And then after that, I didn’t think I was actually gonna be playing music anymore. I just wasn’t the same person. I’d look in the mirror and I didn’t see the same guy. And after I beat it and survived it, I kind of thought, ‘Okay, now it’s time to continue on with life.’ And then shortly after that we had the original lineup reunion. And I think that’s kind of what really set off the new life of TESTAMENT, because we were writing music, jamming with the guys who started it from the beginning and kind of taking the attitude, like, ‘We’re gonna finish this together, what we started.’ But over time, Louie (Clemente, former TESTAMENT drummer) had to drop out ’cause of health reasons; he couldn’t hold the sticks like he used to. So he had to drop out. And then shortly after that Greg (Christian, former TESTAMENT bassist) dropped out. But from then on, I think we’ve just kind of been writing for ourselves, maybe not really caring what necessarily the press thought. You always wanna impress the fans, but we were really writing to make us happy.”
Dovas shared the same pictures on his social media and he added: “New TESTAMENT material in the works! Eric and I have been working hard all week on new ideas. Stoked so far!”
In a 2023 interview with Loud TV, Peterson said that the new TESTAMENT material is shaping up to be “fucking killer.” He added: “I’m a fan. For me, I wouldn’t release anything unless I’m a fan of what I’m doing. I have to get goosebumps. When I hear it, I’m, like, ‘Yeah.’ And then, of course, I play it for friends. A few of them go, ‘Ehh.’ But most of them go, ‘Fuuuck!’ Except Chuck — Chuck goes, ‘Eh.’ And then four years later, he goes, ‘That’s the best song ever. Write more shit like that.’ I’m, like, ‘Yeah, but four years ago you said that sucked.'”
Peterson was also full of praise for Dovas, who officially joined the band last year as the replacement for Lombardo. Eric said: “When we were auditioning for new drummers, his video tape was the number one for me. And then, of course, Dave Lombardo called us, so we just kind of pushed everything aside; we said, ‘Okay, we’ll try Dave.’ And when Dave was, like, ‘Oh, I’ve got this show coming up. I’ve got this show coming up,’ I went back to my videos, and I said, ‘Oh, yeah, this guy.’ I remember the other guys going, ‘Let’s call Paul Bostaph.’ ‘Let’s call John Tempesta.’ And, of course, they would probably do it, but with the stipulation of, like, ‘I can only do this date,’ ‘I can only do this date.’ I called Chris. He was, like, ‘I’m in. I’ll do everything.’ And so we tried him, and were just, like, ‘What?!’ Perfect tempo. Everything correct — bam, bam. Very polite. Really nice guy. I can’t say enough good things about him. He’s just a really good drummer. He’s 24; he’s my son’s age. Young blood back in TESTAMENT. For me, too, he loves black metal, so he was, like, into blast beats. But he also graduated from a school called Berklee. So jazz… He’s very fluent. He’s not, like, ‘Oh, I only know blast beats.’ He knows blues… TESTAMENT‘s really diverse — we have ballads, we have rock songs, we have blast beats. That’s just it — when he came to visit me before this tour, we were rehearsing for the tour but we would go back to my house at night, do some Jager really late at night and just start jamming at my house. And the next morning we were, like, ‘Woah!’ Really cool shit. So I’m excited for the next record. It’s gonna be killer.”
Lombardo, who was the guest drummer on TESTAMENT‘s 1999 studio album “The Gathering”, formally joined the long-running San Francisco Bay Area act in early 2022. The former SLAYER drummer is currently a member of the MISFITS, MR. BUNGLE, EMPIRE STATE BASTARD and SATANIC PLANET, among others. He also played with SUICIDAL TENDENCIES from 2016 up until 2020.
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