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CHUCK BILLY recalls DAVE MUSTAINE didn’t allow TESTAMENT to use full gear on JUDAS PRIEST tour

19-09-2025

On the latest episode of The David Ellefson ShowTESTAMENT singer Chuck Billy once again reflected on his band’s first-ever U.S. arena tour, which took place in 1990, with JUDAS PRIEST as the headliner and MEGADETH as additional support. Billy said, addressing co-host David Ellefson, who was the bassist for MEGADETH during the aforementioned trek: “Well, I remember we just flew in from doing big tour over in Europe. And I guess the biggest memory is the band you played in. (Laughs) No offense, Dave, but the other Dave (MustaineMEGADETH leader)… I don’t know if you remember that tour… Because things were growing for us, we had ordered a brand new Voelker drum riser built on a riser. All these cabinets showed up, backdrops. And I don’t know if you remember, Dave (Mustaine) pulled them from us all on the start of that tour. He’d seen it and he said we couldn’t use all of that, so we couldn’t use our riser, backdrops and stuff. And my band nudged me on, because every day K.K. (Downing, then-PRIEST guitarist) or (GlennTipton (PRIEST guitarist) would come in and say, ‘Hey, you guys good? You guys need anything?’ And (my bandmates would) be elbowing me, ‘Dude, say something, say something.’ I’m, like, ‘No, no, no.’ And then one day they went, like, ‘Dude, just go talk to Rob (HalfordPRIEST singer), please.’ So I went in there and I told Rob what was going on, and that day he was, like, ‘What? That is ending today.’ And he went in to production and said, ‘TESTAMENT gets everything up there. Get their drums up there, get their backdrops, get everything up there.’ And when we went on that night, I know Dave (Mustaine) was side stage by the monitors — not you, Dave; the other Dave — and his arms were crossed. And he was just having a fit that we were having everything again. And it was crazy, but that was the biggest start of that tour for us. ‘Cause things were starting to happen, and we were, like, ‘Oh, man, we just bought this big show to play for JUDAS PRIEST and MEGADETH, man.’ And in the end we got to use it, and it ended up being great and it was amazing.”

Billy added: “That was probably the highlight, opening up for… Myself, I played JUDAS PRIEST songs on guitar all through high school. They were my biggest heroes ever. And that tour was just like a dream come true for me.”

Chuck previously talked about TESTAMENT‘s 1990 tour with JUDAS PRIEST and MEGADETH during a September 2020 appearance on MACHINE HEAD frontman Robb Flynn‘s “No Fuckin’ Regrets With Robb Flynn” podcast. Billy said at the time: “For the PRIEST tour, we decided we were gonna spend some time on production. We bought a big, fancy Voelker Rack drum set. We bought two new scrims, full-on backline — the whole deal. Nice-looking show. And we get to the first show, and Dave Mustaine sees us have it up, and he says we can’t use it. So we had a little problem the first week of the tour.”

He continued: “I was pissed, because we just spent all this money, and those were the days when they were hand-painted backdrops — these backdrops were 15, 20 grand; they weren’t cheap then. So we were, like, ‘We’re coming out to represent. PRIEST tour in arenas, man. We’re coming out.’ But Dave threw his weight around and said we can’t use all of our new stuff. So for the first week, we were, like, tails between our legs, playing. And all the guys in our band said, ‘Chuck, you seem to be friends with Rob (Halford). Go in there and tell him. He keeps telling you guys, ‘If you guys need anything, just ask.’ Go in there.’ And I’d had it. And I said, ‘You know what? I’m gonna.’ So, I went in there. It was, like, three or four days into the tour. I go in the (PRIEST) dressing room. I said, ‘Hey, Rob. You got a minute? I need to talk to you.’ I go, ‘I don’t know who to talk to, but I’m gonna come to you. And if it’s your guys’ decision, hey, I’m down with it, but I thought I would just bring it up. We bought all this stuff for this tour to put on a nice show, and the MEGADETH guy says we can’t play, ’cause they said you guys wouldn’t let us use it.’ And he was, like, ‘What? Who said that?’ Right there, he went and got his tour manager and said, ‘Get in here.’ Rob said, ‘Do you know anything about this? Them not letting TESTAMENT not use their gear?’ The tour manager says, ‘No.’ And Rob goes, ‘You make sure tonight they get the damn gear up there.’ So we had a full-blown show. And who comes sidestage to watch the show? There goes Mr. MustaineMr. Mustaine is standing there, just pissed off — he just had that look. And we were looking over just, like, ‘Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, Dave.’ We were putting it on, throwing it down. And that’s how that tour started.”

Billy added: “This was, like, our first step into an arena: ‘Oh, man. Maybe we’re making it. We’re doing it.’ And to get shut down the first time, we weren’t having it.”

According to Chuck, it was a “great” experience touring with PRIEST for the first time. “They always came in the dressing room, every day, and said, ‘How are you guys doing? Are you guys good? Do you guys need anything?'” he said. “And we were just too shy to ask. We did find out that they really were who they were. They stepped up and made it happen, and we had the full show the rest of the tour, man — and full sound at that point too.”

Earlier this week TESTAMENT released “Shadow People”, the second single from the band’s upcoming album, “Para Bellum”, which is due on October 10 via Nuclear Blast. The official animated video for the song, was created by Freakshot Films.

Watch “Shadow People” below.

When “Para Bellum” was first announced in August, it was accompanied by the official music video for the LP’s lead single, “Infanticide A.I.”, directed by Joey Durango.

Watch the previously released “Infanticide A.I.” below.

TESTAMENT guitarist Eric Peterson stated about “Infanticide A.I.”: “When we wrote the song. I think it was like 12 at night and we were done for the day for jamming, and Chris [DovasTESTAMENT drummer] was at the house and we were watching [the 2023 horror film] ‘Evil Dead Rise’. And just within a half hour, I’m, like, ‘Come on. We’re going downstairs.’ And just the imagery of that.”

Added Dovas: “It just inspired us. We’re, like, ‘We’re gonna go down and write some evil music. Come on, let’s go.’ I think we were drinking some Jäger[meister] or something like that. And, yeah, I don’t know. We were just up really late. It was one of those nights where we were up till two, three in the morning just jamming, and it was kind of how that song was born.”

Eric continued: “I think a lot of movies, for me, visually, horror movies, I think that inspires me to write music.”

TESTAMENT bassist Steve DiGiorgio chimed in: “I always knew that was a strong one right out of the gate. I had a feeling it would be considered probably a single or a title track.”

TESTAMENT singer Chuck Billy comments: “The new album ‘Para Bellum’ consists of some fast, heavy and melodic tunes. Once again (TESTAMENT guitarist Eric) Peterson has found a way to keep the song writing fresh and modern sounding. It’s gonna be hard to choose what songs to play live cause to many to choose from.”

Peterson states: “It’s been five years since our last record ‘Titans Of Creation’ was released. Since then, we all waited to get back to it and we all did in a big way! Now our long over due new record ‘Para Bellum’ is upon us and about to be released in October. We are super stoked and excited to release new blood and fury to you all! With our first single ‘Infanticide A.I.’ we’re coming out swinging! But with new velocities of fury, while maintaining a balance that we all love and know from a TESTAMENT track. Enjoy!”

With every generation comes a great war. It may take years to fully reveal itself, but the seasoned warrior knows preparation is everything. Now in 2025, Bay Area thrash metal icons TESTAMENT return with their fourteenth studio album, “Para Bellum”. Taken from the Latin phrase “Si vis pacem, para bellum” — “If you want peace, prepare for war” — the album stands as both a battle cry and an observation of humanity’s uneasy alliance with its own creations. As technology accelerates and disconnection grows, “Para Bellum” sees TESTAMENT reflecting the modern chaos through music that’s urgent, sharp, and unflinchingly human.

“Para Bellum” track listing:

01. For The Love Of Pain
02. Infanticide A.I.
03. Shadow People
04. Meant To Be
05. High Noon
06. Witch Hunt
07. Nature Of The Beast
08. Room 117
09. Havana Syndrome
10. Para Bellum

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