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MATT BARLOW is open to singing for ICED EARTH again, but says “that would be entirely up to JON SCHAFFER”

09-05-2025

Last month, it was announced that ASHES OF ARES, the band featuring former ICED EARTH members Matt Barlow and Freddie Vidales, will celebrate the upcoming 30th anniversary of ICED EARTH‘s third album, 1996’s “The Dark Saga”, on a European tour in September/October 2025. Vidales played with ICED EARTH from 2008 to 2012 and is featured on the band’s 2011 album “Dystopia”Barlow served two stints with ICED EARTH, from 1993 to 2003 and from 2007 to 2011.

Recorded in early 1996, “The Dark Saga” was a concept album based on the Todd McFarlane comic book character Spawn (who also appears on the album’s cover). Upon its arrival, the LP was praised for Barlow‘s vocals, as well as ICED EARTH founder, songwriter, guitarist and producer Jon Schaffer and Randall Shawver‘s guitar playing. Eduardo Rivadavia called Barlow‘s vocal performance “impressive throughout”, while Mike Stagno felt that “Barlow‘s deeper vocal style also helps the songs sound much more emotional”. Rivadavia also named Schaffer and Shawver‘s interplay the highlight of “The Dark Saga”.

Regarding why “The Dark Saga” was an important enough album for him that he wanted to celebrate it three decades after the LP’s original release, Barlow told Canada’s The Metal Voice: “I can’t talk about ICED EARTH without talking about, for me, entering the band with (1995’s) ‘Burnt Offerings’. That was huge for me. That was my first foray into actually being in a professional band. But along with that kind of came a dark side of it because it was a really tough time for the band as well, which kind of translated into the music. As everybody, I think, understands with Jon, when he writes, his heart goes out into the music. Whatever he’s focused on is that. Just like for that record, he read ‘Dante’s Inferno’, and then you get this giant humongous trilogy from that, because he puts everything he has into it. So, obviously, that’s the crown jewel of that record — but, along with other things, that’s definitely the crown jewel. But it was just a dark time for the band in general, even though I think I was the shining star at that point. But it was a tough time.

“So ‘The Dark Saga’, for me, and I think for Jon as well, was a renewal, a reinvigoration for the band,” Matt explained. “The reason that even Jon got turned on to ‘Spawn’ was that we were celebrating Christmas. I like collecting action figures and stuff, and I had got all these like Batman and stuff, and Jon was a huge Batman fan, so I think I got Jon a Batman figure, and the other guys liked Spawn figures. And he was, like, ‘What the hell’s this?’ And then he started getting into it, started reading the comics, and the rest is kind of history. And he was totally involved in the entire lore of it and just thought it was just the coolest thing ever. And that’s what happened with ‘The Dark Saga’.

“For me, it was really cool,” Barlow added. “For some members of the band, obviously, members changed and things like that at that point too. It wasn’t like a shock, with ICED EARTH, the membership changes from time to time. But for me, it was really a really good time. It was really a positive time for the band. And we did some amazing shit, man. We were able to do a lot more touring on that. We got a lot more recognition. A lot of the songs obviously sounded a little more mainstream, I guess you’d say. The European fans just ate it up. It had all the great aspects, the sing-along stuff, all the really sweet, hooky stuff. The choruses were just really super smooth and just well written. And, of course, you’ve got Jon just chunking along. So it’s got all the cool shit that you would relate to ICED EARTH. And I think that you listen to it and you go, ‘Yep, that’s ICED EARTH.’ And for me, also I was able to get kind of recognized who I am. At the time, in between ‘Burnt Offerings’ and ‘The Dark Saga’, I was starting to work with a vocal coach. I had had a little bit of coaching before. My sister-in-law, she was a voice instructor and things like that. But this guy kind of got me and sort of understood and said, and he told me that the coolest thing, and I tell this to every other vocalist that asks me about how I developed my voice or whatever. I just say, ‘Do the best you can with what you’ve got. Figure out what your sweet spots are and focus on those.’ And you can broaden your voice, obviously — you can broaden your range and all that — but really focus on those sweet spots in your voice and accentuate that and make that the star of what you’re doing. So I really took that to heart. I really started accentuating, obviously, the cool low parts. And then, of course, working with (producer) Jim Morris was just huge as well to really help me bring that kind of stuff out in the studio. And then developing that and bringing that into a live show and everything else. So it was just a really cool growing experience as well with that record. So, yeah, I’ve got just tons of fond memories of things that that represents for me.”

Asked if he and Freddie were concerned at all about going out and celebrating “The Dark Saga” after Schaffer‘s recent legal troubles related to the guitarist’s involvement in the January 6, 2021 riot at the U.S. Capitol, Matt responded:  ”We don’t live in a tube of silence here. We get stuff. But I think for me, and I think for people that are fans of the music, they don’t care about that. I think at the end of the day, it’s the music. And I hope that everybody’s respectful because I’m gonna celebrate Jon and what he’s done. He’s written some fucking amazing music, and I’ve been fortunate to be a part of that. So, outside of that, I’m not gonna get political with anything. We’re not talking politics. We’re just talking strictly music, and it’s for the love of music. And I hope that everybody understands that. That’s what the point is. Hopefully we’re bringing something cool and special. And I certainly look forward, if Jon wants to tour again and play this music again, I wholeheartedly look forward to that, if that’s a possibility. But we’re just gonna go out there and just celebrate this music that is very special, I think, for a lot of people. We’ve been given blessing to do so by Jon, so that’s super important to us as well.”

Regarding whether he actually asked Jon if the guitarist was okay with Matt and Freddie going out and celebrating “The Dark Saga” this fall, Barlow said: “Yep. Yep. I mean, obviously, we have things that we need to do, as far as we’re not using (ICED EARTH) logos or anything like that. We’re asking, and we’re gonna make sure that the promoters aren’t using any logos or anything like that of his, and, of course, Jon, as the writer of this stuff, he will get paid for music that’s performed live. And for my little chunk that I’ll get paid as well, my writing part of it.”

On the possibility of Matt at some point rejoining ICED EARTH, if Jon decides to relaunch the group, Barlow said: “That’s something that would be entirely up to, obviously, when Jon… That’s Jon‘s band — a hundred percent — so that’s something that Jon would have to decide, whether I would be a part of it or not, either way, but whether ICED EARTH goes out and does it. But I look forward to that, whether it would be me involved with it or somebody else, if that were to happen. And I can’t speak to it, ’cause I don’t think at this point that… It’s not even in the long distance at this point.”

Barlow, who works as a police lieutenant in Georgetown, Delaware, went on to say that his day job prevents him from playing a lot of shows with any music project he is involved with.

“I’m still in law enforcement and my schedule limits how much touring I can do,” he said. “So, I’ve got some more responsibilities now, and it’s good — I feel awesome about that — but it’s also taxing. And I don’t wanna tax my agency too much on that. So I’m doing it when I can, with vacation and things like that. We’re doing the best we can (to play as many ASHES OF ARES shows as possible). We’re trying to spread it out a little bit and do some stuff. We’ll see what we can do, man. We’ll see what we can do.”

ASHES OF ARES, the band featuring former ICED EARTH members Matt Barlow and Freddie Vidales, will celebrate the upcoming 30th anniversary of ICED EARTH‘s third album, 1996’s “The Dark Saga”, on a European tour in September/October 2025.

In announcing the upcoming trek on social media, ASHES OF ARES wrote: “A dream of many fans is now coming true, as the European audience will have the opportunity to hear and witness the entire epic ‘The Dark Saga’ album on stage.

“The monumental 1996 album that has brought so many memories and joy to metal fans will be played from start to finish, yes all 10 songs, along with songs from our forthcoming album.

“Be sure to check back here tomorrow, when we will announce our first date in October. Guess where this is going to be.”

Vidales played with ICED EARTH from 2008 to 2012 and is featured on the band’s 2011 album “Dystopia”.

Barlow served two stints with ICED EARTH, from 1993 to 2003 and from 2007 to 2011.

Recorded in early 1996, “The Dark Saga” was a concept album based on the Todd McFarlane comic book character Spawn (who also appears on the album’s cover). Upon its arrival, the LP was praised for Barlow‘s vocals, as well as ICED EARTH founder, songwriter, guitarist and producer Jon Schaffer and Randall Shawver‘s guitar playing. Eduardo Rivadavia called Barlow‘s vocal performance “impressive throughout”, while Mike Stagno felt that “Barlow‘s deeper vocal style also helps the songs sound much more emotional”. Rivadavia also named Schaffer and Shawver‘s interplay the highlight of “The Dark Saga”.

ASHES OF ARES released its third studio album, “Emperors And Fools”, in January 2022 via ROAR! Rock Of Angels.

“Emperors And Fools” was produced by ASHES OF ARES, and mixed and mastered by Byron Filson at Villain Recording in Phoenix, Arizona. The cover artwork was created by Kamil Pietruczynik.

ASHES OF ARES‘s second album, “Well Of Souls”, came out in November 2018 via ROAR! Rock Of Angels. It was the follow-up to ASHES OF ARES‘s self-titled debut album, which was released in September 2013 via Nuclear Blast.

Seven years ago, Barlow told “The Classic Metal Show” about ASHES OF ARES: “Sometimes it’s hard to escape the comparisons [to ICED EARTH], because my voice is still my voice no matter what, and I’m still gonna deliver things emotionally like I have before, so people are always gonna draw comparisons with ICED EARTH, and that’s fine; I’m completely cool with that. I’m proud of my time in ICED EARTH, proud of everything that I’ve done with them, proud of them right now, going on and kicking ass. So I don’t have any problem with that whatsoever — the comparisons. But that being said, I want ASHES to have its own identity as well. I think, again, as my writing partner, Freddie deserves that — he deserves to have his own identity in ASHES — and I think that’s really important; that’s what we’re striving to do.”

ICED EARTH played its final show with Barlow at the 2011 edition of the Wacken Open Air festival in Wacken, Germany.

Barlow, who is married to Schaffer‘s sister, announced his departure from ICED EARTH in March 2011. In a heartfelt statement, he cited his commitment to his family and the need for ICED EARTH to tour more as the reasons for his retirement; however, he committed to performing with ICED EARTH on all 2011 European festival dates, including Wacken Open Air.

Back in late 2020, Barlow reunited with Schaffer to celebrate the holiday season with an EP called “Winter Nights”. Released under the SCHAFFER/BARLOW PROJECT banner, the effort contained the duo’s unique spin on five Christmas classics and two ICED EARTH songs.

Last October, Jon was sentenced to three years of probation and 120 hours of community service in connection with his involvement in the riot at the U.S. Capitol. He was also ordered to pay $1,000 in restitution and a $200 financial assessment. Schaffer later became one of about 1,500 people accused of crimes related to the riot who were pardoned by President Donald Trump.

Last October Jon Schaffer released his first statement since being sentenced to three years of probation and 120 hours of community service in connection with his involvement in the January 6, 2021 riot at the U.S. Capitol. He will also have to pay $1,000 in restitution and a $200 financial assessment.

Jon issued the following statement via his attorneys Marc J. Victor and A ndrew Marcantel of the Attorneys For Freedom Law Firm: “To my family, friends, and fans worldwide:

“I profoundly regret my actions on January 6th, 2021. I haven’t been a perfect man, but for the majority of my life, I’ve been a very productive man, and have tried to live my life with integrity and a disciplined work ethic. I deeply love our country and the founding principles that have inspired people from all over the world to look at the USA as a beacon of hope for all of humanity. Having traveled the world for over 30 years and having performed in approximately 100 countries, it was always a great feeling and relief when the airplane would safely land at home on US soil.

“When the global pandemic came upon us, and chaos ensued all around the US in 2020, I was very concerned about what seemed to be a collapse of our country and the rule of law. When the 2020 election took place and I saw many public officials and media outlets reporting that the election was stolen, my concern deepened. This led to my decision to go to D.C. and have my voice heard. I’m not excusing my impulsive behavior. I was wrong, and I take ownership of my actions. I own the fact that I made a huge mistake, and I wish I never would have gone there. In fact, the consequences have been devastating on my life, family, friends, business, colleagues and business partners.

“I knew immediately that I had let my emotions get the best of me and made a terrible mistake. I drove home to Indiana the following morning on Thursday, January 7th, 2021. On the 8th I found my attorneys, and at my request they immediately reached out to the authorities. I willingly surrendered and cooperated with authorities. Initially, I was charged with multiple serious federal felony offenses and feared I may spend the rest of my life in prison. I spent several months in custody following my self-surrender. I was placed in solitary confinement with horrendous conditions, which was an extremely traumatic experience. I became the first person of the hundreds of co-defendants to enter a guilty plea, and have now been sentenced to probation.

“Until now, I have resisted the strong urge to issue a public statement due to my ongoing cooperation and the wishes of federal authorities. This extended period of silence has added additional challenges to my life as a public person. Since the beginning, I wanted to express my remorse for my actions and address the legitimate concerns of my fans worldwide. I watched as one media outlet after the next dragged my reputation through the mud and condemned me for not making any statement. However, I tried to be as productive as possible in lieu of my very damaged reputation and career.

“This whole situation has been extremely difficult. However, I know that I have become a better man because of it. I used to stay so busy that I didn’t have much time for self-reflection. In the last three and a half years that’s mostly what I’ve done. I have become a member of a wonderful church and improved myself spiritually, mentally, and physically. This personal revival has inspired me to continue writing and recording music. I’m certain there will be a very positive outlook in my future artistic creations.

“To my fans who have continued to support me throughout this deeply embarrassing ordeal, I want to apologize for letting you down and thank you for keeping me going. To those fans who I have lost due to my decisions that day, I certainly understand. I humbly ask everyone to allow me to demonstrate through my actions how far I’ve come. I wish to continue to use my art to unite people, and never to divide.

“Sincerely, Jon Schaffer“.

“It says a lot about who you are in how quickly you came forward to accept responsibility,” U.S. District judge Amit Mehta told Schaffer during today’s sentencing hearing.

Schaffer apologized to his fans and said he deeply regrets the “pain and embarrassment” his actions have caused. “I’m sorry I let you down and I will work hard to rebuild your trust. You have my word: I will not let you down,” Schaffer told the judge.

Schaffer‘s attorney Marc Victor told the judge the musician believed the 2020 election was fraudulent and that the country was “on the verge of a takeover” when he entered the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021.

“He was wrong but that’s what he believed,” Victor said. “He was misled by people in the executive branch.”

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