While signing the very last bass guitar he ever played on stage with KISS for one fan, Gene asked him (see video below): “How did those avatars look when you first saw them? They’re gonna get better, that animated stuff.” When the fan responded that the avatars looked “absolutely amazing” in the announcement video, Gene continued: “There’s so much being planned, even beyond my comprehension. But they’re spending, oh, about 200 million [dollars] to take it to the next level.” The fan then told Gene that he and his family saw the Michael Jackson show in Las Vegas that revolves around the use of a hologram and that they thought “it was amazing.” The fan added that a friend of his saw the ABBA show in London and that he said “it was just incredible.” Gene concurred, saying that he was impressed with how the ABBA show features really accurately modeled 3D versions of real people. “You can’t tell if they’re there, right there, like that,” Simmons said.

Unlike the “ABBA Voyage” show, which recreates a 1970s-era ABBA concert in a custom-built London arena, KISS‘s avatars that appeared at the band’s final concert in New York earlier this month will not be as grounded in reality as ABBA‘s digital replicas. According to BBC News, the KISS avatars will see the band appear as fantasy-based superheroes who are eight feet tall, breathing fire and shooting electricity from their fingers, while floating above the audience.